League Of Legends

League was too immature in Season 1 to even care about that broken shit and Black Cleavers was implemented during preseason testing. Broken shit was expected. I would rate Black Cleavers higher simply because it wasn't champ specific.

But back to Sejuani, I honestly don't see her being too broken. She is definitely strong but the nerfs on PBE will only give a slight hit (imo), meaning Riot doesn't consider her too out of wack atm.

Nightblue3 claims, and I agree, that Fizz is the most OP jungler atm.

The only problem Sejuani has is that she can be outscaled and is not technically a "carry" jungler. I've had plenty of Sej games where I'm double-digit kills and can soak up enough damage for my derp team to pull a win, but sometimes you get that freak game where even being fed can't make you carry hard enough. I had a Sej game yesterday where all 3 lanes "lost" but I went 9-6-15 and had a full 6 item build. Literally couldn't carry a win even though it would have been so easy if the team just grouped around me.

Fizz on the otherhand is a carry jungler that has insane damage AND builds tanky. You won't get outscaled. 6 item fizz can 1v1 anyone. If you go late you can win games without needing your team to group with you.

Since the Cinderhulk update I'm 8-5 with Sej. (62%)
Since Fizz became a meta jungler I'm 21-11 with him. (66%)

My Sej stats are tarnished since I played her pre-Cinderhulk and had a negative win rate. I'm 12-11 with her for the entire season.

Diving into the stats a little more, Sej is clearly strong at all levels of play, being picked 20% of the time and banned 15% of the time and rocking a 57% win rate overall.

Fizz has a much lower win rate for jungle (51%, 16th highest) but he has the 4th highest ban rate of all junglers @ 35%. Literally banned 2x more often than Sejuani. He's played 9% of the time. So Fizz's representation in games (Ban + Pick %) = 44% whereas Sej is at 35%.

Fizz is being recognized as a much bigger threat than Sej even though his win rate is not as high.

Jungle Fizz has a 54% win rate when games go over 35 mins.
Sejuani also has a 54% win rate when games go over 35 mins.

Jungle Fizz has a 48% win rate with games 30 minutes or less.
Sejuani has a 59% win rate with games 30 minutes or less.

The graphs on Champion.gg only go to 35min game lengths but Sej's graph is declining whereas Fizz's is sharply rising the longer games go.
I would like to see a 40+ min stat but I would imagine Fizz win rate is higher than Sej by that point.

Fizz averages the highest kills of all junglers.
Fizz average KDA: 8.77/6.36/6.99 = 2.48
Sejuani average KDA: 5.6/4.73/12.48 = 3.82

Fizz has a lower KDA from less Assists obviously which supports the argument he doesn't necessarily need his team to pull out wins whereas Sej does.

Perhaps, but the data on Champion.gg shows:

Jungle
59.21% Role Rate
21221 Analyzed This Patch

Top
27.96% Role Rate
10022 Analyzed This Patch

Middle
12.46% Role Rate
4469 Analyzed This Patch

He's picked for Jungle 2x more often than Top.
His win rate in Top lane is ~49% which is only a couple points less than Jungle though.
While some of the bans might be because of Top lane his main role this patch is Jungle so it's probably safe to assume that most of his bans are targeting that role.


Also to note: This champion.gg website only analyzes Platinum+ games. Stats change wildly at lower MMRs.

lol. Nice man, I had his stream open but didn't watch that game. Saw him playing on a smurf and closed it. Looks like your top & bot were the main problem though but also giving over 2 Barons, yikes.

CC does counter him to an extent but what makes him stronger now is he isn't building as pure AP assassin anymore. He gets 2 damage items and 3 defensive items. He won't 1 shot you anymore like AP fizz but he is still deadly and now much more durable.


Edit: Diana picked in 1st game of LCS since IEM.


Edit2: Gilg plays Zac, right? Zac was just picked by Fnatic