Loki
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OU Ariakas
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Loki episode 4 may be my pick for the best episode of any of the 3 series so far.
How the fuck can they be this inconsistent?
I don't think the plot as it unfolds now works without Episode 3.
A lot in this episode and possibly the series resolution appears to hinge on the Loki on Loki romance, which created that "have-you-ever-seen-a-branch-like-this", got them out of Lamentis eventually and in Mobius' words may be the thing to bring the TVA / sacred timeline down.
And by Episode 2, Lady Loki was nothing but a "last-5-seconds-of-the-episode-cliffhanger-face-reveal"
For the entire thing to work, somewhere between Episode 2 and Episode 4, you need introduce to Sylvie-Loki more properly and establish the Loki-on-Loki-relationship up to and including the potential for romance.
Having the two of them go through an abbreviated 30 minute Buddy-Cop/RomCom hybrid, hating each other but needing to work together, starting to gel with one another and finally have a short Rogue One Style "let's share our feelings in the face of Apocalypse" moment did the job well IMO.
Sure, it used plenty of worn tropes to do it and maybe could've been directed sharper in some scenes, but if one were to really skip Episode 2 to Episode 4, the idea of Loki-has-a-crush-on-Loki being the key to toppling the TVA just doesn't work.
A lot in this episode and possibly the series resolution appears to hinge on the Loki on Loki romance, which created that "have-you-ever-seen-a-branch-like-this", got them out of Lamentis eventually and in Mobius' words may be the thing to bring the TVA / sacred timeline down.
And by Episode 2, Lady Loki was nothing but a "last-5-seconds-of-the-episode-cliffhanger-face-reveal"
For the entire thing to work, somewhere between Episode 2 and Episode 4, you need introduce to Sylvie-Loki more properly and establish the Loki-on-Loki-relationship up to and including the potential for romance.
Having the two of them go through an abbreviated 30 minute Buddy-Cop/RomCom hybrid, hating each other but needing to work together, starting to gel with one another and finally have a short Rogue One Style "let's share our feelings in the face of Apocalypse" moment did the job well IMO.
Sure, it used plenty of worn tropes to do it and maybe could've been directed sharper in some scenes, but if one were to really skip Episode 2 to Episode 4, the idea of Loki-has-a-crush-on-Loki being the key to toppling the TVA just doesn't work.
OU Ariakas
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Ok, new theory about the sacred timeline; we only see the picture of the timeline from the side so we always think it is one single universe and one timeline. However, what if the goal of the TVA (or whoever is behind it) is that there are thousands of multiverses and they must make sure the same things happen in each one. So we can have a Loki that chooses to grow up as a girl and that is not the event that causes the variation because as long as Sylvie performs the same actions as the Loki of every other timeline then that is fine. So in the sacred timeline picture when we see a branch it could be a branch from any of a thousand multiverses that has deviated from the norm across all of them.
Sevens
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Yeah, the show writers have come out and said there is no Loki on Loki romance in this show
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Mobius literally confronts Loki for falling for himself. Sure, this’ll never go anywhere. But similarly with Loki’s “can’t quite express my feelings stutter” before getting the stick, it seemed to me that this was somewhat implied.
Not to mention the train conversation they had about lovers and no previous relationship being „real“. The spurned Lady Sif loop about „you‘ll always be alone“
/shrug
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Theorycrafting time
so ending scene suggests alternate timelines still exist, since New York is in ruins. This suggests a limitation or alternate plan -the TVA can’t really destroy variants for some reason, so they dump them all in an alternate timeline.
So maybe the TVA cares less about a single timeline, and more about ensuring more timelines end up the same, because you could use the same strategy to control them all if they were close enough. Ideal timeline is apparently one where Thanos loses and the stones are out of the picture. NYC in ruins suggests a Thanos won timeline, which is why it is a dumping ground. Maybe they can’t kill the variants because they need to exist for nexus events and thus branching timelines to exist. But if you take the variant away, you can manipulate the timeline to be how you want it to be
So maybe the TVA cares less about a single timeline, and more about ensuring more timelines end up the same, because you could use the same strategy to control them all if they were close enough. Ideal timeline is apparently one where Thanos loses and the stones are out of the picture. NYC in ruins suggests a Thanos won timeline, which is why it is a dumping ground. Maybe they can’t kill the variants because they need to exist for nexus events and thus branching timelines to exist. But if you take the variant away, you can manipulate the timeline to be how you want it to be