Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

Well, she's an old lady and probably so disgusted with how the county has treated her family that she wouldn't put it passed them. After watching them try to put words in dassey's mouth who they know is a retard and then prosecute and convict him of murder1, then I wouldn't be shocked at what they do.

Noodlemod_sl said:

Yeah I think it even popped up on TMZ?

Steven Averys Still Alive | TMZ.com

Normally I wouldn't trust TMZ but they have the source audio and I heard it on my way into work.

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It would be the most amazing thing ever if that ended up being true. No doubt the DA and sheriff's office would still say they believe he's guilty.

Cad_sl said:

I think if they just present the facts of this case, it'll seem biased to Avery. They'd have to twist it ridiculously to make it seem "balanced" because the facts of the case just are not balanced.

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I'm not so sure about that. I suppose it depends on what you mean by "facts." If you look at the "facts" there is:

A body on Avery's property
Her car on Avery's property
Her burned corpse on Avery's property
Avery's DNA in her car
Her DNA on a bullet found on Avery's property
A witness/accomplis with a written confession

Now where the waters start getting muddy is around some of the conjecture and often times outright abuse of power and neglect of procedure. But from a "facts" perspective the case is pretty easy.

It all depends who we get as the host. Is it old guy with a thousand wrinkles on his face? Or is it the hot blonde who I want to pull a train on?

Noodlemod_sl said:

It all depends who we get as the host. Is it old guy with a thousand wrinkles on his face? Or is it the hot blonde who I want to pull a train on?

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its the super old dude with the john kerry face and haircut. luckily, he has a good voice. i can hear him now. "man is convicted on dna and eyewitness evidence, but wait thats not the end of the story, you wont believe all the controversy behind how that evidence was produced and the history between steven avery and the people who discovered it all. is steven avery guilty? or the victim of a massive frame-up? you decide, on this week's Dateline"

I just hope we don't get the fat hispanic guy, he ruins episodes for some reason

Sylas_sl said:

Eat a bag of dicks faggot. I put your troll ass on Ignore around page 7 when you started Tanoomba'ing the thread. I didn't tone down shit nor did I need to, nor did anyone point anything out to me. I've just been playing blade and soul this week and this thread was finished on page 31, as I pointed out in my last post here.

Now if the rest of you could stop quoting this troll I wouldn't have to see his garbage.

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Maybe if you did something physical instead of playing videogames all week you wouldn't be so fat and miserable

My theory: Halbach is still alive chained up toothless in Ken Kratz's love dungeon. He'd want her toothless for obvious reasons, and would have been able to plant the teeth for a positive ID.

Jive Turkey_sl said:

Maybe if you did something physical instead of playing videogames all week you wouldn't be so fat and miserable

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khalid_sl said:

Yeah, its unfortunate but Popsicledeath is just unable to disagree with someone without turning it personal. Similar to Column in that way, except at least Column will eventually drop out of a thread. Popsicledeath just sits around monopolizing the discussion.

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Yeah, khalid, it really is unfortunately. I'm sorry I keep turning it so personal. I just can't help monopolizing this thread by posting things irrelevant to the topic that are little more than baseless personal attacks without even trying to insult people within the context of the actual discussion. Will you please forgive me?

popsicledeath_sl said:

Yeah, khalid, it really is unfortunately. I'm sorry I keep turning it so personal. I just can't help monopolizing this thread by posting things irrelevant to the topic that are little more than baseless personal attacks without even trying to insult people within the context of the actual discussion. Will you please forgive me?

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edit: actually no, I'm going to give you a mulligan on this one. You made it 2 days. I'm flattered, but let's try a little harder, chief

Apparently the dateline episode is supposed to show some 'new evidence'

Now, I don't know if this is truly new evidence, or if its the internet evidence like when basement dwellers saw the picture of halbach with her full set of keys instead of the valet key.

Noodlemod_sl said:

Apparently the dateline episode is supposed to show some 'new evidence'

Now, I don't know if this is truly new evidence, or if its the internet evidence like when basement dwellers saw the picture of halbach with her full set of keys instead of the valet key.

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That's the new clickbait tagline. NEW EVIDENCE. It's almost always the same things people have been talking about for days or weeks that just hasn't hit the main sources yet.

Always thought the jurisdictional things were a big red flag. They changed the venue to the neighboring county and then proceeded to bus jurors from the county the venue changed from. And had the Manitowoc sheriff's office declare there's a conflict of interest so they won't be involved in the investigation and they were heavily involved and seemingly the only ones to ever find any "evidence" at all. Seems to be a common theme around there to say you're doing something due to a conflict of interest, and then not actually do anything about it in reality.

There's a word for what happened. Disingenuous.

Backwoods areas of our country have small populations of people that are easy to manipulate. Get a handful of adequately intelligent people together and you can very easily "run shit"

Khane_sl said:

Get a handful of adequately intelligent people together and you can very easily "run shit"

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Agree, keeping in mind the bar for adequate intelligence is pretty low in some parts.

watching dateline
lol they interviewed the county assholes and they still act like avery raped that lady.

so far it seems like they are leaning with all the bullshit from mantowiac caounty presented and are going to treat its debunking as just desperation from the defense. its funny how they keep talking about how dateline claims they were following this story for ten years but hadnt covered it since the conviction.

popsicledeath_sl said:

Agree, keeping in mind the bar for adequate intelligence is pretty low in some parts.

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Well "adequate" is a very relative term.