Marriage and the Power of Divorce

Picasso3

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It is, that's why I said it's a glaring issue. Too much cafe con leche Picasso!
So you know it's not going to work? I thought you were trying to check boxes. I'd encourage you to reflect on the successful number of cool 33 year old women that make big money and like getting buttfucked available. Those usually get snatched up pretty quick.
 

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I tried this but, she died after I poured the gin in her ass. Would not recommend.
I bet you didn't put the cocaine in her twat first.

It's fun. Do it sometime. It's an acid/base thing. She gushes like an elementary school science fair volcano.
 

Frenzied Wombat

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I don't see how getting fat is a fight or not. Did she gain weight? If so... I mean this is pretty objective. You don't even have to be an asshole. You can be like "didn't you weigh 105 last year? And you're 115 now? Well, ok I'd say you gained 10lbs."

If its the kind of girl who won't even get on a scale, thats just rampaging insecurity and I wouldn't be dealing with that woman in the first place.
I mean, yeah, of course weight gain isn't subjective, but these shit testing questions aren't about being right/wrong, they're about a woman feeling insecure and wanting to be consoled in some way.. Being straight up factual/logical/correct doesn't help you in any way.. You totally handled that scenario like any normal logical dude would, but that's the trap.. I mean, have you ever dated Caucasian Dallas women because I get the impression that your dragon lady has more old school Asian in her than you let on.. 'Murican women that you haven't been married to for years will fuck you up if you tell them they're getting fat.
 

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I mean, have you ever dated Caucasian Dallas women because I get the impression that your dragon lady has more old school Asian in her than you let on.. 'Murican women that you haven't been married to for years will fuck you up if you tell them they're getting fat.
No, I haven't dated Dallas caucasian women. And I never said she wasn't old-school asian, she was born in Vietnam and learned english in elementary school. She's pretty raw asian not asian-american.
 

iannis

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There are some questions that when asked you have to recognize that they are looking for something and it is NOT an answer. It also is usually not blatant and trivial flattery. If you've got one of those who are appeased with obvious falseness then God help you because no one else can. Should have run the moment you figured out she was one of those.

The ones that are really dangerous is when they blindside you with them. You're focused on something else and she was waiting for just this moment to get an "honest" answer out of you.

Men do it too. Much less often, but we do it too. Usually all we're looking for is sex though, so that should be easy on a woman.
 

Frenzied Wombat

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No, I haven't dated Dallas caucasian women. And I never said she wasn't old-school asian, she was born in Vietnam and learned english in elementary school. She's pretty raw asian not asian-american.
Gotcha, I thought she was heavily 'Muricanized. Well yeah, if she's old school it's a whole different ball game. Dad was with a Filipino for decades and if I could clone a younger version of her I'd do it in a heartbeat.
 

Frenzied Wombat

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So a little update about the girl I have been dating. Sex has gotten way better, pretty great in fact. She's super dirty, likes it in the butt, is really adventurous and has an insatiable libido. The other night she came over to my place, closed the curtains in my living room and told me to put on some porn, then rode me like a bronco while it was on. Then she asked me if I wanted to have a threesome.

So long story short we had a conversation and decided we will now be introducing each other as bf/gf.

There are two glaring issues though.

1) She's a social worker who makes pretty much pennies. You all know how I feel about that.
2) She's quite a bit younger than me. She's 26 and I'm 33. Meaning she and her friends are still in the "Let's go out to the loudest bar we can find and drink on a Wednesday night until midnight" and that's just not my thing anymore. I'm not particularly fond of yelling during conversation or going to bed at 1 am, drunk on a weekday.
1) You're going to have to work through #1 eventually because wealthy AND attractive chicks want to date the tall, dark, handsome, AND rich type. Also from personal experience, just because they make good money, doesn't mean for one second that they're willing to go halfsies with you.. I have similar issues as you do in terms of wanting "fairness" in a relationship, but where you seek someone in the same income bracket to hopefully shoulder their share of the load, I'll date any income bracket but expect some breaks or extra effort on her part to make up for the fact that I'm elevating her lifestyle beyond her normal means.. I'd suggest you maybe try my strat, because at a minimum it opens up the playing field a lot..

2) That age difference is nothing. 10 years or so shouldn't be a problem. As long as she doesn't try to bring you up to her general activity level, let her go out to drink.. Then she can come home to bang you drunk after you got to watch sci-fi all night. It's win win.
 

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Expecting your partner to work harder outside of their job because he/she doesn't make as much as you is not "fairness". It's ignorant bordering on cruel and malevolent.
 

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"Honey, can you come in here and wipe my ass please? Let's not forget who's paying the mortgage now..."
 

Khane

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So you know it's not going to work? I thought you were trying to check boxes. I'd encourage you to reflect on the successful number of cool 33 year old women that make big money and like getting buttfucked available. Those usually get snatched up pretty quick.
Why do you think I'm dating her? You're not telling me anything I don't already know. In fact you're just agreeing with me!
 

Frenzied Wombat

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Expecting your partner to work harder outside of their job because he/she doesn't make as much as you is not "fairness". It's ignorant bordering on cruel and malevolent.
So, I pay for her new tires, take her on vacation to Thailand, bail her out of her speeding ticket she can't afford, and generally remove financial stress from her life, and it's "cruel and malevolent" for me to expect that maybe she'll pick up some extra slack in the cooking department, or be the one responsible for picking up dry cleaning?
 

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If that's 'extra effort', the bar is pretty low.
The bar is pretty low, most women expect to be treated like a disney princess. If you ask them to do something that seems secretarial it's WW3.
 

Picasso3

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Why do you think I'm dating her? You're not telling me anything I don't already know. In fact you're just agreeing with me!
Yes, I think I'm just trying to poorly convey that those 2 issues are likely not chronic issues that are going to break a relationship in the future like her being a devout jew or having a huge pussy... like in 2 years you won't come back here and say "the sex, company, and companionship were great but I just couldn't deal with her being a social worker"
 

Khane

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Yes, I think I'm just trying to poorly convey that those 2 issues are likely not chronic issues that are going to break a relationship in the future like her being a devout jew or having a huge pussy... like in 2 years you won't come back here and say "the sex, company, and companionship were great but I just couldn't deal with her being a social worker"
Well the social work takes its toll on people. It's a thankless job and you get paid shit to do it. She already talks about how shitty her day is pretty much every day but I already expected that because I've dated social workers in the past.

The rub is she was the valedictorian of her high school graduating class and was originally studying to become an accountant. However, it's a delicate subject and one I would never broach with her because of the reasons behind why she became a social worker.

She's specifically a child life specialist and works at a children's hospital. She works with kids to help them understand why they are in the hospital and help them cope with their illnesses. So it's even more emotionally taxing, she's already had to attend a wake for one of her patients and two more are terminal and not doing well. She switched majors and went with this career because it's something she has been through herself. She's a cancer survivor. She had cancer when she was nine and her five year old sister gave her a bone marrow transplant that saved her life.
 

Picasso3

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That sounds more amirable than someone making 150k suing walmart because someone dropped a turkey on their toe. I'd cut her a little slack
 

Khane

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It's very admirable and I'm not even cutting her slack or "allowing it". It's not about that I'm dating her because I like her.

I just know myself and my capacity to be supportive to such emotionally draining employment. It's not like I won't try though.
 

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So, I pay for her new tires, take her on vacation to Thailand, bail her out of her speeding ticket she can't afford, and generally remove financial stress from her life, and it's "cruel and malevolent" for me to expect that maybe she'll pick up some extra slack in the cooking department, or be the one responsible for picking up dry cleaning?
How is all of this setup? Did you pay for her speeding ticket and you specifically said she now has to pickup your dry cleaning? Or did you pay for a vacation to Thailand and hoped she'd connect the dots to home cooked meals every night?

Or is it even more nebulous than that. You have a running meter in your head of all the nice things you've done for her vs. extra effort from her, normalized by incomes?