MMA Thread

hernia surgery in July

Ameraves said:

That doesn't even make sense. Kevin Lee is ranked like 8th or something, isn't he?

Is Khabib still on the shelf?

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Looking at the LW rankings, most all the top 15 already have fights booked or are coming off a loss. With Khabib wanting to wait longer, and I don't think Dana trusts him to much after last event, I suppose that's why Lee is getting the shot. Still think Big Ugly smashes him though. Even though he's new I would of liked to see Justin Gaethje fight for it instead of Lee but whatever, his matchup with Eddie should be fun to watch.

edit: Plus if Gaethje did fight him and won and Conor actually defended a belt, I think that'd be a fun fight to watch also.

Looks like Brunson vs. Machida, Dillashaw vs. Garbrandt and Lewis vs. Werdum were announced today.

Stephen Thompson vs. Masvidal also added today.

Throwin Machida to the wolves on his return fight lol. Really lookin forward to Garbrandt vs TJ. Lewis and Werdum is meh, hopefully a KO happens, though I could see Werdum tryin to get him down and submit him. Thompson and Masvidal has potential, esp since Masvidal won't fight like Woodley.

calhoonjugganaut said:

Lewis vs. Werdum were announced today.

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dont like this one.

was looking at ppv numbers, they will need the last 2-3 events to be huge

215 will be lucky to break 100k,
216 no real star power yet, another 300k to 500k
217 is stacked , 1m-1.2m easy, if nothing happens
218 return of McGregor?

Stipe. Cain, VanZant were rumored for 216
Stipe just said should see him fight by the end of the year.
Diazs no clue
Hunt should fight again
Jones again?

PPV numbers *all estimated

2017
214 = 860k
213 = 130k
212 = 200k
211 = 300k
210 = 300k
209 = 300k
208 = 200k



UFC on Fox from Reddi

Goatface said:

was looking at ppv numbers, they will need the last 2-3 events to be huge

215 will be lucky to break 100k,
216 no real star power yet, another 300k to 500k
217 is stacked , 1m-1.2m easy, if nothing happens
218 return of McGregor?

Stipe. Cain, VanZant were rumored for 216
Stipe just said should see him fight by the end of the year.
Diazs no clue
Hunt should fight again
Jones again?

PPV numbers *all estimated

2017
214 = 860k
213 = 130k
212 = 200k
211 = 300k
210 = 300k
209 = 300k
208 = 200k

Spoiler: 2016 UFC's best year

207 = 1,100,000
206 = 150k
205 = 1,400,000
204 = 290k
203 = 450k
202 = 1,550,000
201 = 240k
200 = 1,009,000
199 = 320k
198 = 217k
197 = 322k
196 = 1,317,000
195 = 300k

UFC on Fox from Reddi

Spoiler: 1-25 ranked

1. UFC on Fox 1: Velasquez (c) vs. dos Santos 2011 - 5,700,000
2. UFC on Fox 2: Evans vs. Davis 2012 - 4,570,000
3. UFC on Fox 5: Henderson (c) vs. Diaz 2012 - 4,400,000
4. UFC on Fox 6: Johnson (c) vs. Dodson 2013 - 4,220,000
5. UFC on Fox 7: Henderson (c) vs. Melendez 2013 - 3,700,000
6. UFC on Fox 10: Henderson (c) vs. Thomson 2014 - 3,220,000
7. UFC on Fox 22: VanZant vs. Waterson 2016 - 3,178,000
8. UFC on Fox 14: Gustafsson vs. Rumble 2015 - 3,049,000
9. UFC on Fox 20: Holm vs. Shevchenko 2016 - 2,975,000
10. UFC on Fox 9: Johnson (c) vs. Benavidez II 2013 - 2,800,000 (tied for 10th)
11. UFC on Fox 16: Dillashaw (c) vs. Barao II 2015 - 2,800,000 (tied for 10th)
12. UFC on Fox 13: dos Santos vs. Miocic 2014 - 2,800,000 (tied for 10th)
13. UFC on Fox 17: dos Anjos (c) vs. Cerrone II 2015 - 2,781,000
14. UFC on Fox 15: Machida vs. Rockhold 2015 - 2,745,000
15. UFC on Fox 18: Rumble vs. Bader 2016 - 2,685,000
16. UFC on Fox 19: Evans vs. Texeira 2016 - 2,500,000 (tied for 16th)
17. UFC on Fox 12: Lawler vs. Brown 2014 - 2,500,000 (tied for 16th)
18. UFC on Fox 11: Werdum vs. Browne 2014 2,500,000 (tied for 16th)
19. UFC on Fox 4: Shogun vs. Vera 2012 - 2,400,000 (tied for 19th)
20. UFC on Fox 3: Diaz vs. Miller 2012 - 2,400,000 (tied for 19th)
21. UFC on Fox 8: Johnson (c) vs. Moraga 2013 - 2,380,000
22. UFC on Fox 23: Shevchenko vs. Pena - 2017 2,189,000
23. UFC on Fox 25: Weidman vs. Gastelum - 2,046,000
24. UFC on Fox 24: Johnson (c) vs. Reis 2017 - 1,996,000
25. UFC on Fox 21: Condit vs. Maia 2016 - 1,983,000

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Those PPV numbers are pretty stark. None this year with 1m+ buys after 5 last year...but of those 5 last year, 200 was built to be a massive show and only barely broke a million buys, 207 with return of Rousey managed to hit 1.1m (but not like she's coming back or would draw anymore)...and the top 3 were all Conor headlined.

Dana and the Fertitta's sold at the right time.

Noticed you are scaling up the buys on a few of those cards too.

UFC 213 is definitive though. Either nobody cares to see Overeem fight anymore, or nobody cared about the Werdum rematch. Its difficult to justify his payout with those buys. The HW division is in trouble without Stipe fighting 3 times a year, and I don't know where they are going to stack the tomato cans for him to beat on.

As far as I can tell, prime Stipe VS anyone in the division right now is a meat-grinder. He has those straight arm "teleport punches" with knockout power. That build of striker doesn't come around too often at HW.

LMAO Fertitta's set up the USADA deal in the 30 days before they sold the company off, signing the USADA ink the same month, knowing full well that fighters were not ready for this era of drug testing.

Just in time to crash a few main events while they get Zuffa Boxing off the ground... How much longer till their MMA non-compete clause is up, you have to wonder?