MMA Thread

you wouldn't make it with that mindset. if you get known as the guy who kicks people in the balls, everyone is gonna kick you in the balls. some other dude is gonna suplex you into hospital long before you make it to the big stage.

apparently it is illegal (certain places?) to go for a straight grab and slam to the head
but as long as the other fighter is holding/attempting a sub, you can do it

Armadon said:

I actually thought it was illegal to slam an opponents head in mma. Didn't realize you could do it.

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You can't spike them, meaning inverting them and driving the top of their head straight down into the ground parallel to their spine. (No wrestling pile drivers.) They're worried about spinal compression.

You can give them concussions all day as long as they're not perpendicular to the ground. Suplexes, guard slams, or any half-rotation judo throws are fine.

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The best part of that was Dominick Cruz saying, "Nope, she can't lift there" right as it was happening.

Captain Suave said:

The best part of that was Dominick Cruz saying, "Nope, she can't lift there" right as it was happening.

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People keep critiquing Dom because it's easy due to the timing but right before Rose got face slammed he said, "she can [slam] now that she fought the hands." Up until that moment, in which he corrected himself before it actually happened, he was totally right.

That was a great move by Andrade and clinched her a victory from the claws of defeat.

Thug Rose was looking amazing up until that moment. Hope her health is good and she comes back soon for a rematch.

from TMZ
Conor McGregor Charges Dropped In Phone Smashing Case
Conor McGregor is off the hook in his Miami phone smashing case -- prosecutors have dropped the charges against the UFC star after the victim stopped cooperating with authorities.

"The victim of the crime does not wish to return to the United States and prosecute this case," prosecutor Khalil Madani said during a hearing on Monday.
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But now, prosecutors say Abdirzak has left the country and doesn't want to come back to aid in Conor's prosecution ... which everyone saw coming from a mile away.

Here's why ... Abdirzak had filed a civil lawsuit against Conor -- which McGregor ultimately settled out of court.

Translation -- Abdirzak probably got a huge payday and wasn't exactly motivated to help put Conor behind bars.

Goatface said:

from TMZ
Conor McGregor Charges Dropped In Phone Smashing Case
Conor McGregor is off the hook in his Miami phone smashing case -- prosecutors have dropped the charges against the UFC star after the victim stopped cooperating with authorities.

"The victim of the crime does not wish to return to the United States and prosecute this case," prosecutor Khalil Madani said during a hearing on Monday.
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But now, prosecutors say Abdirzak has left the country and doesn't want to come back to aid in Conor's prosecution ... which everyone saw coming from a mile away.

Here's why ... Abdirzak had filed a civil lawsuit against Conor -- which McGregor ultimately settled out of court.

Translation -- Abdirzak probably got a huge payday and wasn't exactly motivated to help put Conor behind bars.

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Not everyone. C Captain Suave explained to us that this was impossible and everyone involved would be executed for this

Ambiturner said:

Not everyone. C Captain Suave explained to us that this was impossible and everyone involved would be executed for this

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Christ, you're dense. All I ever said was that McGregor's actions were criminal and it's exclusively the DA's prerogative to prosecute.

Lanx said:

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Odd hand movement, but tapped to what? There was no submission.

Erronius said:

.....you mean Fedor? Or did he suplex someone else through the floor?



Honestly, I think you're taught not to in a lot of disciplines. Wrestling and BJJ. Good way to get DQed. There's rules about slams, often they're outright illegal. Or you have to return opponent safely to the ground, let their momentum take them down (can't spear/slam them), or they can't impact shoulders/head first. Same thing with suplexes. Depends on the discipline, and tourney rules of a tournament.

This topic is also guaranteed Internet MMA debate trollbait too, LOL

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I've watched that throw several times and have no idea how he got disqualified for that. He slammed him on his shoulder blades. It wasn't even close to his head.

That is, unless this is a judo tourney and they still have leg attacks outlawed. He did grab his upper thigh area to turn him around and set up the slam.

In any case, being disqualified for those moves is complete bullshit. That stuff is 100% what judo (and by extension jiu-jitsu) is about.

LiquidDeath said:

That is, unless this is a judo tourney and they still have leg attacks outlawed. He did grab his upper thigh area to turn him around and set up the slam.

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It's a IBJJF BJJ tournament. You're not allowed to elevate and accelerate your opponent into the mat on their head/spine/shoulders. You can suplex, but not straight back like that.

LiquidDeath said:

It wasn't even close to his head.

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His shoulder blades touched first, but his head bounced hard and he was clearly dazed.

Captain Suave said:

It's a IBJJF BJJ tournament. You're not allowed to elevate and accelerate your opponent into the mat on their head/spine/shoulders. You can suplex, but not straight back like that.



His shoulder blades touched first, but his head bounced hard and he was clearly dazed.

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For BJJ I get the head and spine, but shoulders? That seems excessive.

All BJJ players should have mandatory judo fall training. He would have learned to keep his chin on his chest and probably avoided just such an impact from that type of throw.

LiquidDeath said:

He would have learned to keep his chin on his chest and probably avoided just such an impact from that type of throw.

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In principle I agree - the average level of ukemi in BJJ is atrocious. However, no amount of chin tucking is going to keep your head off the mat in a straight rear suplex. Neck muscles aren't that strong compared to the energy involved.

Erronius said:

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We neckst up