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Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO
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fanaskin
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eq failed? it very specifically imprinted itself on everyone here because it was punishing.
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Compared to its start? Absolutely. The only reason it is still holding on is because it did away with the punishment as gameplay mentality.
fanaskin
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It's so trash because it did that and went away from group play. nobody groups in the grouping mmo because they nerfed it. also everyone complains modern mmo's suck because there's no community and everyone's a souless npc that doesn't care, why is there no community? because there's no interdependance because they nerfed everything. is there even a modern mmo that's decent? i can't even think of 1.
like what is even the gold standard now?
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You and the dozens like you are why the MMO graveyard is so full. There is a market for games that aim to be fun and accessible first and foremost. The masochist crowd is way too small to be profitable.
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if you think MnM is masochistic LOL, it's way easy to level, when i hear these cries i literally laugh you can get your exp back in less than an hour of play even at like 40+
the reasonable conclusion i have is you just don't know what the fuck you're talking about. also you didn't answer my question what is the gold standard mmo now because there is none, they're all too easy solofests with some grouping where nobody talks to each other and no relationships are formed.
it's not hard to solo, you can level really fast if you just group and makeup the xp in <1 hour, you can literally level 1-60 in the starting city if you want without leaving or being in danger. over 90% of the places to level are outdoors so there's no CR problems besides having to run back even then you can bind close so it's like <5 minutes.
there's like 2 real dungeons in the whole game atm. One you can IVU past everything with a level 1 spell and get any corpse anywhere in the dungeon from buffs you can get at the bank if you want. People will gladly help you for free, the other is like a 20's dungeon thats big but there's plenty of ways to get around that.
honestly you guys just haven't played the game and are bitching about theoreticals that don't really exist.
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I haven't played it, and am not claiming to have done so. I hope they can turn it around into something fun that has the ability to last. But the punishment as gameplay mentality you are talking about, along with their refusal to implement instancing or some other mechanism to eliminate player friction/soft pvp do not paint a picture that they will succeed. Businesses cost money to operate. This type of game isn't going generate that kind of money because the market is way too small. This has been tried many times before.
Gold standard right now is WOW or FFXIV. Love them or hate them, they are at the pinnacle of the market. A key element of their enduring popularity is their devotion to making every facet of the game accessible to everyone.
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Probably end of game too. Unfortunately. If there's folks playing it and they have resolved the issues a few months after launch I will look forward to giving it a try.
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I’ve played closed beta for a month or so, the game just really doesn’t respect your time
IMO. I probably won’t play EA except to fiddle around a bit whenever Trolls are released since that’s America’s Race (tm).
I don’t dislike the game, it’s fine for what it is, but I’m not convinced a true “market” for this niche really exists in 2026 outside of a few hundred no-lifer types. It just does not respect your time at all in a world where most of the players that hit up EQ back in the day now have families and jobs/houses and shit to do.
If I were in College I’d probably have loved this game. But I’m not, and neither is anyone in this thread, and neither is anyone picking this type of game up. I’m not gonna be butthurt if it succeeds though and I think we all know the fanboys are gonna redefine “success” to mean whatever actually happens with this game.
edit: to be clear I am not calling for them to carebear it up or “WoWify” it, just giving my experience with the game as is
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