Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO

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I would give them the full benefit of the doubt that those low play time accounts are bank alts. Which means they have about ~3.5-4k players and nearly all of them use bank alts. The alternative, of course, is that over 50% of the potential player base noped the fuck out immediately, which would be very, very bad.

Given that its a free to play test, designed for retiree/disability types, who have fixed incomes and have plenty of free to play options in similar vein amongst emulator/private servers, and they refuse to launch on steam and wont have any marketing budget, they'll be lucky to convert 10% of them to paying customers. So maybe 300-500 subscribers total for launch.

maybe they'll catch a few whales who will 54 box that will prop up the numbers a bit but still not looking likely that this will ever be full time employment for anyone.
 
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Pasteton

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This game isn’t meant to take your full attention. I got a window with stuff partly showing so I can see when to heal. Otherwise I’m working or playing some other game or watching tv or whatever else. It’s a great chill experience. Reminds me of eq when I used to literally study for hours while xp’ing
 
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12k on servers seems a bit high.

if shawn reads this, reach out if you want, i can offer a primary and colo datacenter services for server hosting. not sure what you do, but those costs look like by compute and or egress. a lot of smaller private cloud data centers will just do flat costs and i imagine your servers dont need incredible resources. maybe you're doing baremetal though.

nm im retarded, 12k for 4 year range makes sense
 
Quaid

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Pasteton said:
This game isn’t meant to take your full attention. I got a window with stuff partly showing so I can see when to heal. Otherwise I’m working or playing some other game or watching tv or whatever else. It’s a great chill experience. Reminds me of eq when I used to literally study for hours while xp’ing
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man wtf if the healer has time to do paperwork while in a group, the puller is an absolute titty.
 
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Kithani

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Quaid said:
man wtf if the healer has time to cyber with a 40yo dude playing a wood elf chick while in a group, the game is an absolute titties.
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Now you’re getting it!

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edit: lol there’s a complaint on the Discord that wood elf chicks aren’t hot enough
 
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Pasteton

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Easier to play for 8-10 hours if you aren’t going sweaty boy the whole time. I literally get told on comms when someone needs a heal and then tab over and then I’m back to poe2. It’s like ever 2-3 pulls unless a named comes or whatever. We aren’t pulling 5 mobs at a time or any such nonsense
 
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Pasteton said:
Easier to play for 8-10 hours if you aren’t going sweaty boy the whole time. I literally get told on comms when someone needs a heal and then tab over and then I’m back to poe2. It’s like ever 2-3 pulls unless a named comes or whatever. We aren’t pulling 5 mobs at a time or any such nonsense
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It's almost like you're describing an idle game that wants you to pay a $15 month sub for.
 
Quaid

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Pasteton said:
Easier to play for 8-10 hours if you aren’t going sweaty boy the whole time. I literally get told on comms when someone needs a heal and then tab over and then I’m back to poe2. It’s like ever 2-3 pulls unless a named comes or whatever. We aren’t pulling 5 mobs at a time or any such nonsense
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Holy shit hahahahaha

Truly immersive. Such community.
 
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Quaid

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It’s looking like it’s taking people in the 35-45 level range 5-6h per level. Leveling to 60 is going to take people who play 12-15 hours per week many many months. Probably a year.

The last playtest they had almost 2000 accounts play 3.5-8+ hours PER DAY. A full 10% of the unique accounts that logged in at all played 8 hours every day, and another 15% played 3.5-7 hours every day. Safe to say those will all be guaranteed subs.

What’s really fucked up? Outside the first day concurrent users hovered around 1100-1200. This group of players is dominating usage, and the group of people NOT playing a fucking shitload is vanishingly small. This team is kinda pot-committed to keeping a very rabid base very satisfied, for better or worse.
 
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Korzax Stonehammer

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I looked at this a long time ago, and look forward to it coming out. But i'm not gonna play it now and ruin that first time experience. You only get one of those.
 
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Del

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Quaid said:
It’s looking like it’s taking people in the 35-45 level range 5-6h per level. Leveling to 60 is going to take people who play 12-15 hours per week many many months. Probably a year.

The last playtest they had almost 2000 accounts play 3.5-8+ hours PER DAY. A full 10% of the unique accounts that logged in at all played 8 hours every day, and another 15% played 3.5-7 hours every day. Safe to say those will all be guaranteed subs.

What’s really fucked up? Outside the first day concurrent users hovered around 1100-1200. This group of players is dominating usage, and the group of people NOT playing a fucking shitload is vanishingly small. This team is kinda pot-committed to keeping a very rabid base very satisfied, for better or worse.
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It's more like 3~4 hours per level if you're just purely grinding. Faster than old school EQ. I remember leveling my warrior in Guk and it taking 6-8 hours per level. However, I haven't hit the 50s yet, which I've heard are pretty slow. But yeah, expect the leveling experience to take quite a while if you're a dad gamer.
 
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Quaid said:
This team is kinda pot-committed to keeping a very rabid base very satisfied, for better or worse.
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We're not that hard to please. Tbh they probably could get rid of corpse runs, shrink the zones, and put in maps... and we'd still want to play it.
 
Quaid

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Del said:
It's more like 3~4 hours per level if you're just purely grinding. Faster than old school EQ. I remember leveling my warrior in Guk and it taking 6-8 hours per level. However, I haven't hit the 50s yet, which I've heard are pretty slow. But yeah, expect the leveling experience to take quite a while if you're a dad gamer.
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There’s no such thing as ‘just purely grinding’. Travel, CRs, LFG, and selling may vary by player, but every player experiences them.

If low 40s took you 8 hours of pure grinding per level in Guk, again, you were garbage at EQ. There were single play sessions where I’d grind out an entire level at Frenzy, and i wasn’t playing anywhere near 8h in a row. Maybe you were alt-tabbed playing Commander Keen as well? The only way i could see this is if you were on a very high pop server and Guk was so packed there was significant spawn competition… which did happen.
 
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