Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO

Duskoy

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this Inquisitor 30 min cooldown ability to charm a mob for 15 seconds is absolute dogshit compared to the Paladins lay hands and the SKs harm touch that they get. They need to fix that asap
 
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Burns

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I believe they did mention there would be another test.
Supposedly Nick mentioned in the Dev stream, about halfway through the last test, that they will probably have at least one more test. Then, toward the end of the test, one of the other devs also said they would be doing another test, not sure if it was during a different stream or on Discord.

I'd guess that if they are still working on the backend, there might be more than one, with a few weekend stress tests still in the works.
 

Hekotat

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Supposedly Nick mentioned in the Dev stream, about halfway through the last test, that they will probably have at least one more test. Then, toward the end of the test, one of the other devs also said they would be doing another test, not sure if it was during a different stream or on Discord.

I'd guess that if they are still working on the backend, there might be more than one, with a few weekend stress tests still in the works.

I saw it on lovingrobot's stream. He said everyone would be back in again before EA. I'm sure it's to help build hype to EA.
 
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Araxen

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The $15 people act like the market they are going for can't afford $15. $15 is a tip in the bucket for the peeps they are targeting for this game. I have zero issues giving $15 for a sub. I'm sure the majority of others do too. Most F2P MMO's are just flat out terrible. I'll gladly pay a sub fee. The #1 MMO on the market has a sub fee aka WoW. I just don't get it. Just put you head in the sand I guess. Facts prove otherwise.

I honestly believe this thread should be immune for nominations for asshat of the year. It should be for the Tylenol eater of the year thread. It's pure autism to argue otherwise.
 
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Quaid

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The $15 people act like the market they are going for can't afford $15. $15 is a tip in the bucket for the peeps they are targeting for this game. I have zero issues giving $15 for a sub. I'm sure the majority of others do too. Most F2P MMO's are just flat out terrible. I'll gladly pay a sub fee. The #1 MMO on the market has a sub fee aka WoW. I just don't get it. Just put you head in the sand I guess. Facts prove otherwise.

I honestly believe this thread should be immune for nominations for asshat of the year. It should be for the Tylenol eater of the year thread. It's pure autism to argue otherwise.

I don’t understand the weird microscopic subscription projections. They’re going to get many thousands of EA subscribers. They release the stats every test and there’s like 2500+ dudes playing over 15 hours a week. You can assume a near 100% conversion rate from that segment alone. The fans of this game are absolutely rabbid, and many would likely pay a sub fee double what they’re asking.

I don’t like speculating on specific numbers, but anything under 3000 EA subs is so objectively wrong that it just feels like trolling.
 
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I don’t understand the weird microscopic subscription projections. They’re going to get many thousands of EA subscribers. They release the stats every test and there’s like 2500+ dudes playing over 15 hours a week. You can assume a near 100% conversion rate from that segment alone. The fans of this game are absolutely rabbid, and many would likely pay a sub fee double what they’re asking.

I don’t like speculating on specific numbers, but anything under 3000 EA subs is so objectively wrong that it just feels like trolling.
Their numbers went from 8K to 10k this last test. The hours played grew too. The game is scratching that itch for us tryhard neckbeards. Whether or not they can finsh fleshing out the game in a way that keeps us is another thing entirely.
 

Pasteton

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It would be a stretch to expect a team this small to put out enough content to keep us poopsockers happy for years. If I get 6-12 months worth of fun out of this game it would have kept my attention longer than any game since circa 2007 wow , and that would be a huge success to me. If it ends up being hugely successful and they figure out how to expand their budget without losing their focus, I would be pleasantly surprised as the game could last a good deal longer that way.
 

Quaid

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Their numbers went from 8K to 10k this last test. The hours played grew too. The game is scratching that itch for us tryhard neckbeards. Whether or not they can finsh fleshing out the game in a way that keeps us is another thing entirely.

I don’t put much stock in their unique account metrics when it comes to subscriber conversion, especially when one considers the new player experience as it stands.

I think folks ‘checking the game out’ who aren’t familiar with EQ/Vanguard are going to drop it at an extremely high rate (>90%) in the first 4-5 hours of playtime.

I hope to be incorrect, but we’ll see.
 

forehead

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Log into P99 or a live TLP and ask 10 random people if they plan on playing MnM. 7 out of 10 will say they’ve never heard of it. And that’s their most niche target audience. A lot of people are really underestimating the room for growth when the word gets out.
 
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Quaid

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Log into P99 or a live TLP and ask 10 random people if they plan on playing MnM. 7 out of 10 will say they’ve never heard of it. And that’s their most niche target audience. A lot of people are really underestimating the room for growth when the word gets out.

This is almost certainly true.

However, most of the time that I see MnM discussed in the Quarm in game global chat channels (as rarely as its brought up) the feedback is as negative as it is positive. Even then, the majority don't care/have zero awareness. Out of my guild of 100 active folks almost nobody talks about it at all, ever, despite there being a dedicated channel on our Discord. Guild leadership in particular is not stoked. Only a couple dudes even played the most recent test, and one of them is like a DIE HARD MnM guy. I suspect he got an alpha key or something because I haven't seen him online in a few weeks.
 

General Antony

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I wouldn't place much value in how the game is talked about in another games chat. Its almost always negative because it's either a different genre that the players don't care for or it's the same genre and they don't want a competitor to fragment their community.
 

Quaid

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I wouldn't place much value in how the game is talked about in another games chat. Its almost always negative because it's either a different genre that the players don't care for or it's the same genre and they don't want a competitor to fragment their community.

I expect things to change in the TLP/EMU communities once it gets closer to release. Lots of potential customers there.
 

Duskoy

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I expect things to change in the TLP/EMU communities once it gets closer to release. Lots of potential customers there.
Most of my old P99/TLP crew had no idea about this game until recently. And they are rabid at the mouth in the parents basement waiting..
 

your_mum

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trying to understand whats going to keep the poopsockers around? whats the point of having good gear? obviously this is going to be a "vertical" scale MMO so the only point is to shit on others...

but how am i going to shit on others? by camping shit someone naked could do?

whats gonna get me and the boys fired up?

i see a lot of love for early game, but what exists right now for mid/late that'll keep me around after the new-puss feeling is gone?
 

Kithani

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Log into P99 or a live TLP and ask 10 random people if they plan on playing MnM. 7 out of 10 will say they’ve never heard of it. And that’s their most niche target audience. A lot of people are really underestimating the room for growth when the word gets out.
P99 players can't afford $15 a month until SNAP gets reinstated
 
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Needless

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There any decent resources on YT to watch about classes and shit for this? i'm sure ill just roll a wizard even if they're slow as fuck like EQ but starting to get curious about the game now