Siliconemelons
Naxxramas 1.0 Raider
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Bonus points if you can do an AI version of the EQ female wood elf model instead.
Grok wont go NSFW from a source image that is not already NSFW..but..you get the idea heh
PG-13 Grokness
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Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO
- Thread starter Flobee
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Grok wont go NSFW from a source image that is not already NSFW..but..you get the idea heh
PG-13 Grokness
Daidraco
Avatar of War Slayer
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Now that.. that would have done me in as a kid in 1999.
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moonarchia
The Scientific Shitlord
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Kithani
Blackwing Lair Raider
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Flobee
Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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Hekotat
FoH nuclear response team
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Quaid
Trump's Staff
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It's alpha and there is a functional third party Auction House.
Monsters & Memories Auction House | The Tunnel
The missing Auction House for MnM. Check item prices, list trades, and avoid scams. Supports Relle, Krivea, and Haradrel.
thetunnel.xyz
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Gravel
Mr. Poopybutthole
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Because it's almost 2026 and there's no reason the game shouldn't include one. Players aren't going to put up with retarded shit just because it's in some bizarre vision of the devs. Even people who will dick suck any idea these devs come up with.It's alpha and there is a functional third party Auction House.
Monsters & Memories Auction House | The Tunnel
The missing Auction House for MnM. Check item prices, list trades, and avoid scams. Supports Relle, Krivea, and Haradrel.thetunnel.xyz
It's like the not including maps thing, or making quests retarded. Those things work in 1999. In 2026 you're just annoying the playerbase.
moonarchia
The Scientific Shitlord
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These are the same devs that want to charge a monthly fee for EA. Their entire business model is annoying the playerbase. EQ nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
Quaid
Trump's Staff
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Oh ya I wasn't posting it because I was impressed or anything. More like an 'of course'.
At this point players will be second-screening an auction house, global chat channels, and maps at a bare minimum. That's in addition to the eventual loot databases and quest logs that in my opinion, a developer should not be expected to provide.
If the goal is 'vibes', and keeping the player 'immersed', I don't understand the logic behind having them alt-tab or second screen more than they already naturally will. You offload the game's aesthetic to a third party and relinquish all control of the system. There's already space for fucking advertisements on the page for the auction house tool I linked.....
Flobee
Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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Players choosing to use third party tools, and those same tools being in the game and part of the designed experience are two different things. If you want to second screen maps and an auction house, that's your choice but not designing for those things being in the game creates something different than if you do design around them.
The most efficient path is not the only path.
The most efficient path is not the only path.
Quaid
Trump's Staff
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Ya bro, I know. We all do.
The vast majority of players (like, >95%) will choose to actually be good at the game, not RP an illiterate Ogre who doesn't engage with third party tools for personal enjoyment reasons.
The development choice to force the vast majority of players to detach from the game world to access these tools, for a tiny minority who wish to keep themselves in the dark, is baffling to me.
Also, do you have any evidence that this is their motivation for these decisions? Because I'd be very happy to see it. Or is this simply the only argument you have available to you?
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moonarchia
The Scientific Shitlord
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Paying a sub for a finished product is a far different thing than paying one to beta test something that will never be finished. Oh well, if the masochistic misery whales want to be milked, someone will milk them.
Flobee
Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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Thats the point I'm making. You have a preference and at least seemingly can't imagine anyone having a different one. I'll use maps too most likely, but designing without them very much has a purpose. In recent history design has largely been about controlling player behavior. This kind of decision is specifically a return to a different philosophy of designing for a specific experience and not making top priority that everyone experience it in the same way. You may dislike it which is fine, but its not retarded its just a different philosophy than you've seen in recent years.
Maybe players will hate it, I tend to think its going to work just fine. Will just have to see.