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Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO
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Kithani
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MnM going to be great. You will never need to play EQ TLP trash again or fresh start rerolls or previous games over and over. Time for a new decade of gaming to take me into the retirement home.
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Wow swing and a miss from the peanut gallery, thought I was gonna have to come in here and school you fags but then i saw its just 3 new pages of people telling you the graphics are shit and there's deeper technical problems combined with the low res. The graphics are a problem, it has nothing to do with polygon counts. These character models and animations look like a turd compared to mmos from the 90s/00s,. There is NO artistic style, no charm, its not stylized or even "cartoony." It looks like something drawn by someone with zero artistic talent. This game looks like what pantheon would have looked like if those religious folks had secured funding and we got actual fuzzy trolls.
Yes WoW taught the industry that stylized graphics work well if you stick to an artistic vision with smooth controls and responsive gameplay. Except this game has neither? 2004 wow looks like fucking the sistine chapel compared to these models and it played smooth as butter compared to this shit.
The problem is the complete lack of artistic style not that the art is low poly. Im not sure how this is coming as a surprise to you guys, this game is made by 2 dudes both coders neither of which have an artistic bone in their body. Everything else the game has and is is a few hours of free volunteer labor, of course the art is gonna be shit. This shouldn't even be debatable. The problem is like most decisions made for this game so far, the guys in charge are dumb.
Throw the ea up on steam charge 19.95 include 30 days free sub and then use that fucking windfall of profit from a few hundred thousand box sales to hire actual artists to overhaul characters and animations; this isnt hard but they insist on only wanting 15/month from the maybe 500 dudes who've heard of this game and can afford a sub after paying for their percocet habit
Yes WoW taught the industry that stylized graphics work well if you stick to an artistic vision with smooth controls and responsive gameplay. Except this game has neither? 2004 wow looks like fucking the sistine chapel compared to these models and it played smooth as butter compared to this shit.
The problem is the complete lack of artistic style not that the art is low poly. Im not sure how this is coming as a surprise to you guys, this game is made by 2 dudes both coders neither of which have an artistic bone in their body. Everything else the game has and is is a few hours of free volunteer labor, of course the art is gonna be shit. This shouldn't even be debatable. The problem is like most decisions made for this game so far, the guys in charge are dumb.
Throw the ea up on steam charge 19.95 include 30 days free sub and then use that fucking windfall of profit from a few hundred thousand box sales to hire actual artists to overhaul characters and animations; this isnt hard but they insist on only wanting 15/month from the maybe 500 dudes who've heard of this game and can afford a sub after paying for their percocet habit
Quaid
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I really don’t understand this… nocturnal animals are not day blind. It’d be more accurate if they saw muted colours, as they’d have more rods than cones. Or maybe you could make edges a bit blurry? But a lower range of sight similar to what human PCs experience at night doesn’t make a lot of sense.
Kuro
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Hekotat
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I believe they mentioned on stream they will be adding improved vision traits to choose from for all races with some being slightly better than others. With that being said they need to nerf the gamma slider.
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Quaid
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what would be really based is if they did less with vision types and did improved hearing on like Goblins & Wood Elves so you can hear invis or stealth players, and make them otherwise silent to other races. Sick for PVP. Or even smell on Trolls and Halflings that made invis irrelevant all together and gives you like an ‘outline’ of invis players.
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Hekotat
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I'm all for less enhanced vision options or removing them from the game. There are so many light source spells and items in the game that they should be more emphasized and useful. I'm always going to take improved vision over any other choice in that category if it's offered. Removing enhanced vision will also make classes with light sources more desirable in groups (Illuminating arrow, mage light, flare, etc.)
Also, the night time/low visibility in the game is what makes it so appealing to me and I'll likely be spending most of my time underground because I love the ambience with torches and fires going. It feels like a properly dangerous experience in terms of immersion and I hope they continue to make dungeons incredibly dark. I'm also hoping for some mechanics that make the light distance less effective in dungeons or specific areas, like a smothering darkness or the torches on the wall actually make it darker rather than brighter.
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Daidraco
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Unfortunately, I kind of agree. The amount of time it takes to grind shit out in this game isnt anything to scoff at. So diving super deep into it before retail seems like a complete waste of time. I would have thought exp rates would be amped up significantly in alpha, but its the exact opposite. I just wish the low levels had a higher level range for grouping.
I agree that making those class abilities and trade skills more relevant with nerfed innate abilities would contribute to grouping. But they gotta buff those abilities in turn. Look at the amount of time we spent in wyrmsbane - a lamp taking up an inventory slot is already awful But the lamp is expensive and the fuel for it burns way too quick. If we look at comparable abilities from classes like mage light, then they need to not only be more available between classes - but be better themselves. Lasting more than 10-30 minutes before asking for it to be recast or resummoned. Same gripe i have with flame shield / thorns. Why tf do i have to be bothered with this spell every 10 minutes. Where is the quality of life at with this?
Someone mentioned SoW (or more directly, movement speed increasing classes) being more popular- I honestly think a tutorial guide on alchemy leading to the creation of a SoW potion would go a long ways to improve quality of life, also.