moonarchia
The Scientific Shitlord
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I got a level 13 ranger u wanna dance name ur time and place
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Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO
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Kirun
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Woefully Inept
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fanaskin
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i started a month late cause i missed the invite in my spam folder and splitting time with my friends i got a bunch of chars 20-30, running a lowbie guild while I joined the high end guild.
I decided to do all the tradeskills to, that's a huge time and money sink btw.
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Kithani
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Kirun
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Lol sounds like you need to quit running with those scrub lowbies and start running with the BIG boiz like me and my squad. Somebody on the dev team is going to need to call the vet, because we're going to be putting them dawgs DOWN!
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fanaskin
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your taunts mean nothing to me, i'm having fun.
Im in the best guild with the most 60's and get into all the groups, guild groups where 60's stay out of group and help power level everyone, late night farms with the better people in other guilds ect, have so much loot i have some of the top items on alts. we pvp together in groups on discord and wreck everyone else on server, i can do 95% rez and everyone wants me to help them do stuff to farm BIS while we wait for raids to come back and crush them. life's good.
unbuffed wis is near the BIS i need 2 skulls and a gilded spellbook but that will come with time.
instead of being a whiny bitch loner who wants to instance everything at their own pace I just joined a guild and made friends
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Pasteton
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I played wow in server first guilds and ffxiv beat all the savage raids etc lol, that’s just not the kind of game I’m looking for here. But none of these games including the higher apm ones mentioned above, are difficult in the ‘button pushing’ category, so that was a weird flex/attempted dunk.
It’s pretty clear that this game is not going to be skills based in the way you’re trying to flex on me about. I have plenty of options to play those kind of games. In mnm I am looking for conflict and cooperation, interaction, slow progress and massive content, immersive feels and of course nostalgia.
but sure I’ll take the geriatric card , if it gets people like you from not trying to change this game into a clone of others.
It’s pretty clear that this game is not going to be skills based in the way you’re trying to flex on me about. I have plenty of options to play those kind of games. In mnm I am looking for conflict and cooperation, interaction, slow progress and massive content, immersive feels and of course nostalgia.
but sure I’ll take the geriatric card , if it gets people like you from not trying to change this game into a clone of others.
Kirun
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Sounds like your guild is bitch made if they can't even get you to 60 lololol
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fanaskin
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You can easily do 50-60 getting power leveled by a wizard in like 3-4 days, i'd rather just kill monsters and make memories, you're just seeking attention because you have no friends.
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Kithani
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Kirun
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"Difficulty" absolutely exists in MMOs - at least within the context of MMOs. Most people who constantly complain that MMOs are "too easy" have either never touched the top-end raid content or simply aren't good enough to clear it. It's an easy excuse: "It's not that I lack the skill to do the hardest content - the game is just soooo easy!" If the game were actually that easy, they'd be farming the toughest encounters instead of whining about how "easy" it all is.
Flobee
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I had a conversation with their new class Dev about backstab, and abilities more generally, a few months ago because they fully normalize weapon damage for ability calculations. Its a big reason that Backstab feels lame IMO. My suggestion was to use a sliding normalization formula (which I provided an example of) so they could dial it in for specific abilities. The result being that you could make it feel better to use a high damage weapon vs just only focusing on ratio which is how it currently is. This would help backstab feel juicy with a slower mainhand, 2hand weapons could feel better in general etc. Gives you some play with, to use BS as an example, do I keep the high damage primary for fatty backstabs or take this faster better ratio weapon for more white damage. Because there is a adjustable variable you can change it easily for specific abilities as well.
Seems more fun to me but he dismissed it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You can somewhat achieve the same effect by just piling on more flat damage bonus but its going to make scaling feel bad. Normalization is boring
Tol
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lol its the only real content that even exists in these shitty tab-target hotbar-based MMOs unless you want to go full retard and be one of the pvp enjoyers. MMOs that reward a bunch of people just sitting around seeing how long they can sit in their chair or zerg down everything are the lowest form of the dead gay genre that is the MMORPG. Annoying timesinks and "friction" are just passing the mirror test of being conscious and it was funny as shit to revisit PQ to see half the groups were people just working from home and pressing a nuke button every few minutes, and the other half were a bunch of ex-military washouts who were hooked on opiates and barely functional to the point where pressing the nuke every few minutes was too much. Just play an idle clicker at that point unless you really want the full trailer trash experience of nursing home residents trying to stay awake long enough to get their "friction" loot while getting outdamaged by mage pets.
I'm amazed this forum bounced off of project gorgon TBH. That game is basically nothing but a giant timesink of pointless friction and zerg fights
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Yeah people have been baffled for 2+ years about why dmg as a stat more or less has no meaning. It’s easily the thing the rubs me the wrong way about itemization and gear progression and well as attacks feeling wrong. But it’s just been goal post shift and gaslight every time it’s brought up. Rustling!
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Mrniceguy
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MMOs are the shortbus of gaming, it exists to make the retards feel special. It can be fun to be king of the retards, but at then end of the day you're still a retard.
MMOs don't have the strategic depth of a game like chess. Even at the highest end of Giga mythic +420 they require sub 100APM. They will never be difficult compared to RTS, APRGs, Shooters, MOBAs ect which can require 200-400+ APM at the high end.