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I do not want to mess up the thread but after watching the youtube show spell slingers, magic looks like fun and I would like to try it. Is mtg online any good or should I buy some cards and try to find people to play with?

Is this something I am gonna have to sink a lot of money into to enjoy?
 

Heylel

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Legend rule doesn't go on the stack, it checks as a state based action. You either sac the Nexus before the clone hits the table, and thus it can't copy it, or they're both in play and one leaves play before you have the opportunity to add to the stack. In the first scenario you get an extra turn and waste a clone, and in the second you get no extra turn but keep a copied Nexus.
 

Heylel

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I do not want to mess up the thread but after watching the youtube show spell slingers, magic looks like fun and I would like to try it. Is mtg online any good or should I buy some cards and try to find people to play with?

Is this something I am gonna have to sink a lot of money into to enjoy?
It's much more fun in person, if you ask me. The socialization is half the point.

Magic can be a VERY expensive hobby if you dive into modern or legacy and chase decks that run into the thousands. Or you can just go to the shop, pay $12 bucks and draft for an evening. It's pretty supportive at all price points.
 

Arbitrary

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The way I read the Nexus is that it only stops extra turns if you would actually be starting an extra turn. It doesn't kill stored up extra turns you may have. "If a player would begin an extra turn, that player skips that turn instead."

So you could still legend rule them and get an extra turn if you had a way to get the other off the board before you said go.
 

Heylel

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Yeah, but then it goes to a much more fragile 3 turn combo than just a simple 2 card one. I don't see that being reasonable outside of EDH.

Could be wrong, though. Someone might break it on an older format. Seems good with Time Sieve, for instance.
 

Mist

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I do not want to mess up the thread but after watching the youtube show spell slingers, magic looks like fun and I would like to try it. Is mtg online any good or should I buy some cards and try to find people to play with?

Is this something I am gonna have to sink a lot of money into to enjoy?
There's Duels of the Planeswalkers on Steam to get you started.

MTGO is in the middle of a major software version changeover.
 

Enzee

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As currently worded, you can take two additional turns if you legend rule then sac the Nexus.

Not sure who is hating on tri-color. Gold sets have been the most popular and best selling sets historically. They are doing them more often because they continue to be more popular. They used to do them more sparingly, afraid that they might overdo it, but doesn't seem to be the case. The majority of players are not getting tired of gold and multi-color stuff. They like doing powerful and splashy things, which you get with gold cards.

With all the mana fixing that will be available, it won't be hard to run 3 colors. BUT, you need to make sure you have one main color and two 'splash' colors that you don't need till later turns. Plus, avoid double colored mana in your splash colors. If you are Bug (mainly black, splash U/G), for example, aim for being able to cast any spell in your deck with one forest, one island and XX swamps in play.

There's a few exceptions, especially if you run green with Caryatids and Coursers, but that rule of thumb isn't for the players that looked at my advice and said 'that's not quite true'. It's for the newer players that get a little too greedy with mana bases in these sets.
 

Zaphid

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There's Duels of the Planeswalkers on Steam to get you started.

MTGO is in the middle of a major software version changeover.
If you buy Duels, get the 2014 version, 2015 has less featureas and you have to pay for them on top compared to the 2014 version, but I have to echo, the game is much more fun with people.
 

ronne

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2015 is indeed pretty shit. 10$ on Steam, and you still have to throw another ~30$ at it for premium packs or some bullshit to unlock the rest of the cards.

Oh, and just because it has Ravnica PvE and shit in it, don't assume you're going to get cards from that block. Or any of the blocks for that matter. They seem to have cherry picked nothing but the bottom tier of the last 3-4 standard blocks for the card pool and it's fucking stupid.
 

Grumpus

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I do not want to mess up the thread but after watching the youtube show spell slingers, magic looks like fun and I would like to try it. Is mtg online any good or should I buy some cards and try to find people to play with?

Is this something I am gonna have to sink a lot of money into to enjoy?
I started by buying a few starter decks fro my board game group for Christmas. We started drafting weekly soon after. Then some other friends joined in when they saw the fun we were having. We now have a weekend MTG group of 10-12 people.

Encourage some friends to start small and draft draft draft.

Also try EDH asap. I learned a lot about magic playing EDH early with friends who had been playing a long time. You get to interact with older cards. There are weird interaction you don`t see anywhere else and when playing multiplayer you learn about the STACK real fast.
 

Burren

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I started by buying a few starter decks fro my board game group for Christmas. We started drafting weekly soon after. Then some other friends joined in when they saw the fun we were having. We now have a weekend MTG group of 10-12 people.

Encourage some friends to start small and draft draft draft.

Also try EDH asap. I learned a lot about magic playing EDH early with friends who had been playing a long time. You get to interact with older cards. There are weird interaction you don`t see anywhere else and when playing multiplayer you learn about the STACK real fast.
You all in SoCal? WTB a group of decent players. All my friends/family that I played with are 3000 miles east =/
 

Heylel

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Yeah, SCG does this around now each year. The better sales tend to be later in the month, since that means they're shorter duration. I'm actually waiting to pick up a couple pricier cards until after this weekend. Hopefully they'll be on sale by then, but if not it's close enough to the end of the month that the return policy should cover me.
 

Burren

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Yup, waiting on some sales of dual/pain/fetch lands, if any. 4 new decks in the process of being made.
 

Heylel

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I'm not expecting duals to go on sale this year with fetches being reprinted. If anything, I'm anticipating a 10% or so correction upwards once everyone gets their greedy little mittens on Polluted Deltas.
 

Vaclav

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With all the common fixing maybe limited won't suck for a tricolor set finally.
 

Derpa

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Also try EDH asap. I learned a lot about magic playing EDH early with friends who had been playing a long time. You get to interact with older cards. There are weird interaction you don`t see anywhere else and when playing multiplayer you learn about the STACK real fast.
Yep, with a format a friend and I came up with called "beast" it teaches you a LOT about magic even things for long time players.