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I'm on the plane headed home from GPNJ. The tournament didn't go anywhere close to what I expected.

I am damn good at Legacy, but there's not a lot I can do about players who don't have a lot of experience with the format bordering on slow play every turn.

I only took one loss, but I drew against a control player in round 4 with him dead on board if I untap. So, I spend the rest of the day in the durdle bracket and pick up two more draws. Both of which I was 100% to win if I had 1 or 2 more turns.

Under normal circumstances the person in commanding position gets a concession, but I was lucky enough to get opponents who had never been to a GP before and didn't understand that a draw is just as bad as a loss.

It was a super frustrating. I ended up going 5-1-3 (three draws!) to miss day 2.

My loss was cunt hair close to a U\R Delver. Game three it's my turn I am at 4 and he's at 3. I need to fade a draw step because all I need to do is untap, draw, and pass because he dies to his own Sulfuric Vortex. He top decks Cruise, draws three, finds a bolt and I die on my upkeep. Wasn't even mad. It was a great match.

I did much better in the Sunday Super Series going 8-2 for a 17th place finish out of 500ish. I got raped by 12 Post (an almost unwinnable matchup) and lost another very tight match too U\R Delver.

I had fun but I had A LOT higher expectations.

You could have conceded versus the control player in round four to avoid the draw and thus other players with draws in the following rounds.

I won game one and game two ended in 6 turns after I got Waste/Loam locked. So, no that wouldn't have mattered.

Grabbit did way better than me. I was on a very similar Jeskai Stoneblade list that won the open last weekend and definitely did not draw enough Stoneforge Mystics. Ended up 5-4. I played the mirror once, 3 UR Delver decks and 3 Storm decks. I love a format that is so wide open!

I got swept by the UR Delver decks and in at least 2 of the games I held back on casting a spell to play around Daze or Force of Will. I'm definitely not an experienced legacy player, but I still think I took the correct lines. I feel if I was a worse player and just jammed spells I would've don better. Oh well.

The Sunday Super Series was even worse. I lost round one to a basically modern pod list with Green Sun Zenith and Savannah thrown in for good measure. He beat me down with a Siege Rhino Round 2 I drew to the slowest Elves player in history. Round 3 I played the mirror, my opponent won the first game after a couple well drawn wastelands and then we went to time in game 2....

At least I got a sweet Brainstorm mat and pin. Yay!

Anyone planning to attend GP Denver or Omaha in January? I'll be at both.

Martell went to turns in a match on stream and conceded to stay out of the draw pairings.

I watched a lot of the stream. I'd recommend Ross v Lam, Infect vs Standstill in the Top 8. Really good match with decks you don't see too often on coverage.

So I traded a Noble Hierarch for 4 x Fetid Heaths.

Did I do alright? I'm always paranoid about trading, but the guy wanted the card pretty bad, and the Fetids seem to be priced at around $20 each vs $60 - $70 for the Hierarch.

Does anyone know if the new online client aka Magic 2015 has Momir Vig or Momir Vig Basic? I'd never heard of it until the other day and then I watched a 6 hour stream of it and it was hilarious and seems super fun. My flatmate is a programmer at Microsoft (we've been playing a shit ton of Fable Legends lately, which is what he's currently working on) and I'm bored of it atm, so since he gets a ton of shit for free he installed the new MTG client with a bunch of the optional add ons for me. So I'm just wondering if I can play Momir Vig on it. Is it free? Is there any matchmaking for it or do you have to find a friend to play it with?

Sithro_sl said:

So I traded a Noble Hierarch for 4 x Fetid Heaths.

Did I do alright? I'm always paranoid about trading, but the guy wanted the card pretty bad, and the Fetids seem to be priced at around $20 each vs $60 - $70 for the Hierarch.

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Hiearch will most likely never decrease in price and instead slowly continually increase in price. But fetch lands are relatively the same, so it seems like quite a fair trade.

Mist_sl said:

Fetid Heaths aren't fetchlands, they're filter lands.

Both are likely to be reprinted in the next Modern Masters.

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Should I try to trade them off soon, then? What should I be trying to go for?

Only reason I had traded is it seemed like I'd come out on the better end in terms of money value. If MM2 is coming, and that shit is in there, I want to get rid of them asap before their value plummets. I'm trying to trade up. What should I go for that won't likely be in modern masters, but is still wanted and likely to increase in value?

Legacy cards on the do not reprint list, or recent cards that aren't that expensive yet (such as shocklands or the abrupt decay mentioned) since they aren't likely to be in MM2. Also, foils of cards, especially older art versions, such as remand's original art. In that case, even if it's reprinted it'll likely have different art on it and the original foil won't lose as much.

If you could trade into a wasteland, for example, I'd probably do that.

SO! This last week has been so much good news. My original partner for my magic site backed out suddenly, but that made me go to some other people I know, and ended up finding a WAY better partner. Dude has been coming to our shop for awhile now, he is pretty loaded, is willing to practically give me money just for the tax breaks he'll get by claiming it as a loss. He also respects my knowledge about the industry and is going to just be a mostly silent partner. Woot! Pinnacle games' website should be live within the month, will post links here when it does. Will be offering a discount for my rerolled bros.

Then, yesterday he gives me some more good news. He's got an airline voucher that expires end of next month and asked if I wanted to use it to go to one of the invitationals I qualified for (won two elites in the last 6 months). So, looks like I'm going to the Seattle AND Richmond invitationals now!

Anyone else here going to the starcity invitational/open December 12-14th? Or, live in the area (technically it's in tacoma? Don't know how far from seattle that actually is) and can recommend some good food places?

Also, if there's any legacy aficionados, would use some input. Considering I don't normally play much Legacy. I've been thinking of just playing a combo deck and practicing it for the next couple weeks. I figure the more interactive and reactive my deck is, the more chances I have to make mistakes from being unfamiliar with the format. Would rather play something less interactive and/or fast. Was leaning towards ANT storm, since I can duress/therapy my way into perfect info and then just solve a puzzle basically. Proxied it up and was consistently goldfishing a turn 4 kill through at least 1 counter/disruption (rules I made were: I'd cast every duress and therapy in my hand before going off (up to 3 in one turn), and required that I cast at least 1 before even attempting it).

I have a few friends locally that, combined, have pretty much any legacy deck available that they are willing to loan me. So, card availability shouldn't be an issue. The first one didn't think storm was a great idea (but not sure our playstyles/preferences line up very well) but I don't like the idea of something like elves not interacting with opponent at all and being more vulnerable to disruption/removal. If I don't go combo, I think I'll just go with a U/R delver variant.

I'll be there for the Open. Unfortunately Tacoma is like 45 minutes out of Seattle proper so I don't know the area too well but do know there are some chain restaurants near the convention center, and the convention center will have food available (chicken fingers, fries, hot dogs, etc.)

I will say, if you get the chance head to Bellevue and check out Mox Boarding House. It is Card Kingdom's new retail location and the place is nuts. They will fire draft pods and win a box (standard, modern, legacy, or vintage) on demand at any time they are open.

Oh, good call. I remember seeing some video of that place before they opened, looked sweet.
If I scrub out, we just might do that. My buddy is relatively new to magic and not that competitive yet. Have a feeling he'll be down for a smaller tourney like that if I'm not in contention.

I'm now waffling between playing a forgemaster combo deck (aka metalworker mud) instead of storm. So many decks just seem so soft to a turn 1 trinisphere or chalice on 1 right now. Feel like I can get a fair amount of free wins just on the strength of that interaction.

The 7th place list at NJ is my baseline
Gonna fit in a crucible of worlds so I can wasteland lock some decks, and also not die to it myself. I'm a sucker for value tricks, so my first instinct says to fit some Goblin Welders in too, but that would require shaving the 12post land package or the sol lands, and that seems counter-productive. Plus, I'm not resolving my own welders if I'm playing chalices on 1.

I'm still qualified for the next 3 or 4, but I haven't yet convinced my wife to allow me to be away for 4 days while we are already away visiting family for Christmas.

enzie_sl said:

Gonna fit in a crucible of worlds so I can wasteland lock some decks, and also not die to it myself. I'm a sucker for value tricks, so my first instinct says to fit some Goblin Welders in too, but that would require shaving the 12post land package or the sol lands, and that seems counter-productive. Plus, I'm not resolving my own welders if I'm playing chalices on 1.

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You don't really need to Wasteland lock anyone when you have access to Sundering Titan. I seem to always lose to this deck when I was playing Esper Deathblade and part of it was Titan was always killing 3-5 lands of mine in one swoop. The other part is they would always get Staff of Domination and go infinite before I could deal with the Metalworker.

If you want to go the Goblin Welder route, make sure to include Cavern of Souls to be able to cast him through the Chalice.

There's already caverns in the deck, yea.

I know the titan is generally better, but the deck is also very vulnerable to opposing wastelands. We need to make lots of mana, and wastelanding a single cloudpost could reduce our mana by 3-4, for example. So, having the ability to drop a crucible and then start playing them out of the grave gets you out of it. I was going to shave down to 1 or 2 titans in the process.

Spent most of the weekend at the Atlanta Open. I never played a single game, but it was productive regardless. I spent Saturday on staff, and between the credit for that and some heavy trading this afternoon I managed to whittle away another 10 foils for my legacy deck. 4 more cards to go in the main, then it's just a couple of sideboard pieces (which include Thoughtseizes, so that'll suck).

Ended the weekend up 3 judge basics, 5 fetches, a Cradle, Teeg, Stoneforge Mystic, Sylvan Library and KotR. All pack/judge foil. Also a bunch of random stuff, including a pack foil Clique. Pretty good use of my afternoon.

Random post, but... Has anyone here ever watched any pack opening videos on the youtube channel MTG Headquarters? This guy opens all kinds of crazy boxes, packs, etc.. so much so that it makes me wonder what the hell he does for a living. But, recently, I can't watch any more of them.. for the boxes and packs he gets.. and for the amount he talks about playing MTG "back in the day", he mispronounces cards like crazy, doesn't know ANYTHING about valuable cards, handles cards like crap that most would treat like gold and makes remarks about shit like.. he pulls an a fetch land from an older set and goes "this doesn't seem that great.. why would you play this.. you have to pay one life to search for a land.. that's horrible".. I don't know. I guess I'm just curious if anyone else has witnessed this guy.. IT JUST REALLY RUSTLES MY JIMMIES and I had to get it out..