NBA 2013?14 Season

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fanaskin_sl said:
expectations were too high, 4 straight finals appearances hasn't happened since like the mid 1900's
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Nothing to do with when it has or hasn't happen previously and everything to do with how historically bad the Eastern Conference has been over that span. That's what happens when a few of the best players in an already weak conference all band up together and join one team. If the Heat had made the finals 4 straight times in the West, now that would have been quite a feat.
 
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Sure .. what happened 2 of those years? The Heat won the championship, meaning they played better than the best western conference team.
Meaning, have they been in the western conference, they would have at least reach the final twice guaranteed as they beat the best team the west has to offer.

The spurs are a bad match for Anyone, specially the heat as they have zero answer for duncan, and the team is full of veterans. OKC is not a problem for the Heat. The Heat basically wiped
the floor with the best incarnation ever of OKC, the one with Harden.

Also try the 80's for the most consecutive appearances.
Most consecutive NBA Finals appearances[edit]
10 times: Boston Celtics (1957-1966)
4 times: Los Angeles Lakers (1982-1985)
4 times: Boston Celtics (1984-1987)
4 times: Miami Heat (2011-2014)

I just don't understand the hate. The Heat does something that has not been done in almost 30 years, and the reaction of stupid is.. "oh well it was expected"... Really?? Why wasn't it expected of Koby/Shaquille or the spurs, or the bulls, or the rockets, or the pistons, or the celtics, or the jazz? Talk about a double standard.
 
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lendarios_sl said:
Sure .. what happened 2 of those years? The Heat won the championship, meaning they played better than the best western conference team.
Meaning, have they been in the western conference, they would have at least reach the final twice guaranteed as they beat the best team the west has to offer.

The spurs are a bad match for Anyone, specially the heat as they have zero answer for duncan, and the team is full of veterans. OKC is not a problem for the Heat. The Heat basically wiped
the floor with the best incarnation ever of OKC, the one with Harden.

Also try the 80's for the most consecutive appearances.
Most consecutive NBA Finals appearances[edit]
10 times: Boston Celtics (1957-1966)
4 times: Los Angeles Lakers (1982-1985)
4 times: Boston Celtics (1984-1987)
4 times: Miami Heat (2011-2014)

I just don't understand the hate. The Heat does something that has not been done in almost 30 years, and the reaction of stupid is.. "oh well it was expected"...
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You mean the OKC team full of 22 year olds?
 
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It was the best that conference had that year. Meaning they were the best that year from that conference had to offer. Their age is irrelevant. In fact the play style they had from been 22 was one of the reason they were successful. You are disrespecting them by saying "oh a just bunch of 22 yr olds, the didn't do anything big" and you are diminishing their accomplishment just because they were young.

Statistically the western conference does win more games against the east,that is a statistical fact. But that doesn't mean the east best team is worse than the west best team, when in two occasions the east west team defeated the west best team.
 
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That is such a bad argument. The Western playoffs the last few years have been largely about match-ups. Just because the Heat beat the team in the Finals doesn't mean they would have matched up as well against every other West team. Or every other East team they didn't play even. It's the reason there was so much talk about seeding.

I'm not picking on the Heat...same goes for every other team. Just because the Spurs beat the Mavs, Blazers, and OKC doesn't mean they would have beat the Warriors or the Grizzlies. This isn't some simple system where a > b and c > a, therefore c >b. Sports don't work that way.
 
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Because it was expected. Do you even realize how horrible the East is? If they didnt make it out of the East they wouldve been a laughingstock because outside of a very young Pacers team, theres literally no depth in the East. You can make a argument for Toronto and DC, but they are still very up and coming. Then come Finals time, they lose a well rounded Mavs team, beat a inexperienced and young OKC team (whos coach is a complete joke) and had it not been for Ray Allen they wouldve come away with just 1 title in that 4yr span, for a supposed super team that would not have been a good run. 2-2 is average and thats where it stops now. Noway do the Heat see another title, even if they do somehow grab Melo, that just seems like youre adding more problems than solving them. Now Lebron either stays (doubtful I am sure Wade is going to want that $$) or he goes back to CLE and try to win since he has 2 rings now. Anywhere else and he is just going to be considered a chump in many peoples eyes, the guy who jumps around to already deep teams. Kobe, MJ, Duncan all their rings have the same team logo on it. If Lebron ends with 5 rings from 3-4 different teams thats pretty *jerkoffmotion* worthy right there.
 
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All right man../ "it was expected". It is the only time on sports history, when a team has accomplished something rare, and that something has been diminished because of people's expectations. Laughable...
The 90's cowboys, expected. They had the best RB WR QB combo, so expected to win, no accomplishment. The bulls of the 90, they had the best two players in the nba, so expected to win, no accomplishment.
 
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Because nobody gives a shit about Eastern Conference Championship. Stop trying to pretend like it compares to actual championships
 
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Regardless of whatever the public or media expectation was for this Heat team, I think it's pretty silly to be anything but impressed with any team winning back to back championships in this era.
 
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Insomnia_sl said:
Because it was expected. Do you even realize how horrible the East is? If they didnt make it out of the East they wouldve been a laughingstock because outside of a very young Pacers team, theres literally no depth in the East. You can make a argument for Toronto and DC, but they are still very up and coming.
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They lack depth because they have sub .500 teams getting into the playoffs and not getting into the lottery. While West teams are getting put into the lottery with above .500 records. Until this is changed, the East will continue to suck.

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Pretty sure Insomnia is a Cavs fan. Really biased opinion. It's going to be funny when LeBron goes back to Cleveland.
 
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Muurloen_sl said:
Do it mean anything to you that Robert Horry has 7x3 ?
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It was quite an accomplishment that Horry got as many rings as he did. However he was always a support player. At no point in time he was expected to carry his team offensively. His best offensive season was 12 ppg, and on his last 10 seasons his PPG was less than 7. So really he has very little to contribute in terms of winning those years. Lebron on the other hand, is the leading scorer on every team he has been on. If Lebron were to win 1 or 2 more on different teams as the leading scorer it will be quite a feat. If he just moves to another team and becomes a bench warmer, putting 5 PPG, it will not means as much.
 
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^ Yeah, exactly. Any team Lebron is on he will be the best player, so he has a large responsibility for any championships won.

I can't believe the Robert Horry line was intended as an actual rebuttal.
 
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He should just sign 1 year contracts and whoever wins the title gets him the next year. Because apparently that's super impressive to some of you
 
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So let's say this scenario pans out and over the course of LeBron's next 8 years in the league he plays for two more teams and accumulates 3 more championships all of which he is still the best player on his respective team.

What legacy are you saying is tarnished? He's the best player since Jordan. He isn't as good as Jordan. That's his legacy already unless you want to make the ABSOLUTELY FUCKING INSANE proposal that Kobe goes down in history as the better player.
 
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