NBA 2015 Off-Season Thread
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Noel really developed fast this season. I can't wait to see the player he becomes.
Pretty worried about Joel and his foot. As much as I enjoyed his dunk, it looks like that played a part in the reinjured foot. I met Noel and Joel last summer. It's crazy how much bigger Joel is than him. You can kind of see it in the picture too
Pretty worried about Joel and his foot. As much as I enjoyed his dunk, it looks like that played a part in the reinjured foot. I met Noel and Joel last summer. It's crazy how much bigger Joel is than him. You can kind of see it in the picture too
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Embiid's foot thing is supposedly the same injury Yao had, right? Is that clickbait news I read or is there truth to it? I hope he can fully recover. There is very little question that he's going to be a really good player. He also seems like just an overall good guy.
And yeah, definitely right on with Noel. He started the year off pretty rough, but recovered quickly. They always give ROY to whoever leads in scoring and being a Wolves fan I don't mind seeing Wiggins get it, but if we're talking overall production it's hard to argue against Noel. He'll be a defensive anchor for the next 15 years assuming he stays healthy.
I kind of worry about fit between those two. If Noel can learn a reliable 15 footer it would help a ton. He doesn't have much of an offensive game right now. Still very young obviously. Ultimately when you're rebuilding you go with talent though and I would have made the exact same picks if I was Hinke. Honestly two years ago Noel falling as far as he did would have given me wood if I was in the position to draft him.
I think you guys might fall into a tough spot this year though. The entire nation is souring on Okafor and while he's by no means a bad prospect, everyone has realized that Towns and Russell are just better picks.
You should be hoping Flip messes this up for us and goes with Okafor then Russell will be there and I really can't imagine a better scenario for your team. He might still be there regardless, as the Lakers are rooted in traditional scouting and probably see him as a scoring anchor, but a smart team takes Russell #2 without too much hesitation.
And yeah, definitely right on with Noel. He started the year off pretty rough, but recovered quickly. They always give ROY to whoever leads in scoring and being a Wolves fan I don't mind seeing Wiggins get it, but if we're talking overall production it's hard to argue against Noel. He'll be a defensive anchor for the next 15 years assuming he stays healthy.
I kind of worry about fit between those two. If Noel can learn a reliable 15 footer it would help a ton. He doesn't have much of an offensive game right now. Still very young obviously. Ultimately when you're rebuilding you go with talent though and I would have made the exact same picks if I was Hinke. Honestly two years ago Noel falling as far as he did would have given me wood if I was in the position to draft him.
I think you guys might fall into a tough spot this year though. The entire nation is souring on Okafor and while he's by no means a bad prospect, everyone has realized that Towns and Russell are just better picks.
You should be hoping Flip messes this up for us and goes with Okafor then Russell will be there and I really can't imagine a better scenario for your team. He might still be there regardless, as the Lakers are rooted in traditional scouting and probably see him as a scoring anchor, but a smart team takes Russell #2 without too much hesitation.
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They say it's the same kind of injury. They've been very quiet since it was announced last week. There has been talk of some surgery. It sucks, I really wanted to see him in the summer league. Sounds like they are going hard on Saric too. They want him over this year. Assuming we draft Russell, and Joel is ready for the season, we'd have a very interesting team to watch next year.
I think the sixers are worried too. That's why I posted what I did yesterday with baiting the magic to move up. I think they are trying to drum up interest in the press for Porzingis on purpose. I won't be mad if we end up with Mudiay bc it would mean we probably traded back and picked up another pick or player somewhere. I think both players have a ton of upside but Russell appears to the better chance of being an all around great PG.
I think the sixers are worried too. That's why I posted what I did yesterday with baiting the magic to move up. I think they are trying to drum up interest in the press for Porzingis on purpose. I won't be mad if we end up with Mudiay bc it would mean we probably traded back and picked up another pick or player somewhere. I think both players have a ton of upside but Russell appears to the better chance of being an all around great PG.
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I never know what to think about foreign prospects because I obviously fall on the analytics side of things and they're far and away the hardest to project. Exum had a ton of buzz around him last year and while he's still super young, he didn't really show much of anything as a rookie.
Mudiay definitely looks to have an NBA ready body and that combination of athleticism and strength I can definitely see as intriguing. That just does little for me as there are tons of players with NBA bodies that don't pan out. But I fully admit I'm biased here as traditional scouting doesn't mean much to me unless you're Jerry West.
Russell just has everything going for himexceptthat top end athleticism. But I wouldn't call him unathletic...he's just not Westbrook. But you just don't see guys come around very often with that mix of scoring ability and court vision. He's not just a good drive and kick player...it's legit 'see plays develop' floor general level awareness. Plus he showed all of this surrounded by a pretty awful supporting cast at Ohio State. I like the Harden comparisons. It's asking a lot to say he'll bethatgood. But he certainly has that potential.
Mudiay definitely looks to have an NBA ready body and that combination of athleticism and strength I can definitely see as intriguing. That just does little for me as there are tons of players with NBA bodies that don't pan out. But I fully admit I'm biased here as traditional scouting doesn't mean much to me unless you're Jerry West.
Russell just has everything going for himexceptthat top end athleticism. But I wouldn't call him unathletic...he's just not Westbrook. But you just don't see guys come around very often with that mix of scoring ability and court vision. He's not just a good drive and kick player...it's legit 'see plays develop' floor general level awareness. Plus he showed all of this surrounded by a pretty awful supporting cast at Ohio State. I like the Harden comparisons. It's asking a lot to say he'll bethatgood. But he certainly has that potential.
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I haven't really figured out where to place Mudiay. I wanted him over Russell for the longest time. How competitive is that league in China? His sample size was small because of injury but he did preform well. It's more of an nba type league than NCAA as well. Hinkie was the only GM to go over there but he checks out every player. Draft is so intrigueing this year due to the GMs being so unconventional in their wisdom.
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The problem with trying to model international players is simply the sample size. That China league might be more competitive than a typical NCAA season padded with an easy out of conference schedule and the Spanish leagues are supposed to be 2nd only to the NBA in that regard, but there are thousands and thousands of games to analyze of NCAA players and the comparison to production in the NBA. How many NBA playerstotahave played in China? A dozen? Even with the more popular Euro leagues the sample overall is just minuscule in comparison.
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Karl-Anthony Towns is the NBA Drafts not close - SBNation.comJeez. Pretty fucking compelling if you weren't sold already.
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This one is great too, but a really long read:
Karl Towns may very well be the next step in the revolution Kevin Garnett started - Canis Hoopus
Goes pretty in depth on the current NBA game and how important it is to have bigs that can cover pick and rolls.
I still like Russell a lot too (just not for the Wolves) and definitely think both him and Towns are in a tier above Okafor at this point.
Karl Towns may very well be the next step in the revolution Kevin Garnett started - Canis Hoopus
Goes pretty in depth on the current NBA game and how important it is to have bigs that can cover pick and rolls.
I still like Russell a lot too (just not for the Wolves) and definitely think both him and Towns are in a tier above Okafor at this point.
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The way that Golden State won the title this year...How plausible is it to win this way without a Curry on your team? Like Boston IMO can start to emulate GS MUCH easier than over lets say a San Antonio.
As far as Kristaps Porzingis goes. I just really hate the Euro guys. They play soft. I tried looking for as much footage on him as I could find. The highlights are just not usable because everything they show of him is basic shit against guys that are nowhere near his size. How will he fair against a Howard or Cousins. Davis will spit this guy out on a nightly basis.
As far as Kristaps Porzingis goes. I just really hate the Euro guys. They play soft. I tried looking for as much footage on him as I could find. The highlights are just not usable because everything they show of him is basic shit against guys that are nowhere near his size. How will he fair against a Howard or Cousins. Davis will spit this guy out on a nightly basis.
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That's how I feel as well. Europe doesn't have the same level of competition and outside of a few, European players just aren't as successful in the states. Not successful enough to use high draft picks on anyways.
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If you face every playoff team without their starting PG and with another injured player, then I wouldn't think it would be the hardest thing to form a team with a bunch of two way players and win the ring without having a Curry.
Having the two way players be good enough for a team to win for 60+ wins without Curry is another matter.
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Looks like Cousins is done in SAC. Pretty incredible. I wonder if they knew what they were getting with Karl. If I was a SAC fan I'd be pissed - getting rid of someone like Cousins is a tough pill, even given his mentality / maturity issues. No way Karl and him can co-exist now that the story is public.
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I doubt it. At least not for th deal I read about. Orlando isn't just going to come out a loser for no reason
