NBA 2015 Playoffs Thread

Iverson and Shawn Kemp are my two favorite players to watch ever but he wasn't a functional NBA superstar when it comes to winning. He's like Westbrook, too high usage and too low IQ. That finals run was a result of a shitty East and great defense(Eric Snow, Aaron McKie, Dikembe, all great defenders). But they never had a chance in the finals, even after game one. I still remember the tip play to Othella Harrington at the buzzer when AI was at Georgetown, dude was just magical to watch on the court.

Greyform_sl said:

Love is in fact a whiny douche but that was an absolute intentional effort to yank the dudes arm out of its socket the replay shows Olynyk dropping his weight down on the arm and the pick above shows that arm bar he had Love in when he did it. Give it a rest Poopsock your guy is guilty.

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My biggest objection is people are giving Olynyk way too much credit. He's an uncoordinated, dopey, clumsy kid who isn't even really that bright. Dude is soft. I highly doubt he had the wherewithal, strength, coordination or balls to think "This is finally my chance to severely injure Kevin Love!" and then act on it.

If anyone at all in the NBA or covering it thought it was an intentional, bounty/goon effort, THAT would be the story at this point. Where's the outrage? Why isn't there a line of NBA players and analysts lining up saying dirty, intentional, goon plays like Olynyk's need to be stopped and demanding a suspension?

Seriously, why doesn't anyone but pissed off fans seem to think Olynyk should even be punished? Why can't I find a single sports writer or analyst claiming it was deliberate and Olynyk should be punished for it? Not a single other player willing to speak out against a bench riding nobody to defend Kevin Love? Why doesn't anyone but random fans and idiots linking a single still shot seem to think it was anything but a bad foul gone wrong that resulted in a freak accident?

Aren't there at least sports writers from Ohio willing to speak out? Anyone at all? No?

Meanwhile, JR Smith is claiming his backhand of Crowder wasn't intentional. Defend that, retards.

Stop shitting up the thread about Kevin Love. Fuck's sake. He got hurt on a very borderline, at best, play. That is it. Now shut the fuck up.

Ollie received a bunch of attention about OKC because Durant really likes him.

I don't get why you guys think he's such a Boston homer. He's denied he's a Celtics fan. Can you never have a strong opinion about something unless it happens to your favorite team? I don't care whether he's wrong or right but automatically assuming he's a Boston homer for having a strong opinion seems asinine.

It's just because Boston fans are typically the worst so whenever someone is both talking about Boston and is horribly wrong, the assumption is they are a retarded Boston homer.

Alex_sl said:

It's just because Boston fans are typically the worst so whenever someone is both talking about Boston and is horribly wrong, the assumption is they are a retarded Boston homer.

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Really? It's not like I'm supporting Boston somehow by saying Olynyk is a big dumb oaf and even that Crowder deserved the cheap shots, so much as me railing against an Cavs fan who on a freak play comes in and posts about THUG ball as if Olynyk is anywhere close to a thug when you've got Perkins (who I hate from being on Boston teams I hate) and JR Smith who end up committing blatant cheap shots later that are swept under the rug because if a player gets hurt then it's apparently okay to retaliate several times by going after a guy's head.

And horribly wrong? I wouldn't say it's horribly wrong saying that Olynyk could have been hit with a flagrant and committed a dumb foul by being a clumsy, reckless idiot, but not believing he had the ability nor the premeditation to intentionally pull a guy's shoulder out of his socket.

Please, someone, I beg you, explain why there is ZERO outcry in the NBA or sports community against Olynyk. Why did the Cavs coach say he didn't think it was intentional. Why is the most outspoken support for Love's assertion it was intentional a luke-warm response by teammates at first saying they didn't see it (despite there being reports they saw it at half-time) and then not exactly getting very up in arms about it when they apparently later did see the replay. Lebron said it didn't look like a basketball play... pretty mild if he actually thought Olynyk maliciously intended to hurt one of his players (or he just doesn't give a shit about Love).

Why aren't any former players speaking out against this alleged intentional bounty play? Why no up and coming sports writers trying to break another bounty gate? Don't you think somebody, somewhere would run with the story that Olynyk is a thug and deliberately planned to hurt Love if anyone credible believed it? Not even the Cleveland media are that up in arms! Which is shocking how emotionally retarded they can get.

Ironically, one of the reasons I hate Boston so much is the the Garnett/Pierce era Celtics were so fucking dirty and the fan so indignant and fucktards about it I started rooting for the Lakers to beat them after growing up a King's fan. I'm not a fan of dirty. I'm also not a fan of over-reacting retards, either.

Oh, yeah, in regards to the Iverson discussion. I didn't much like him, but he was amazing and carried plenty of shit teams way further than those teams deserved. I agree that the East was shit the year they made it to the finals, but that shouldn't diminish his accomplishment all that much. The East is also not as strong as the West this year, but we've seen how much of a grind it can be, and AI took more hard shots and played through more injuries than most players.

I just hope people don't downplay the Warriors winning it all on the notion the East isn't as strong. That is what sucks about the Love injury, is one of the few strong teams from the East got even weaker so people are going to diminish any team that wins from the West.

Foggy_sl said:

Stop shitting up the thread about Kevin Love. Fuck's sake. He got hurt on a very borderline, at best, play. That is it. Now shut the fuck up.

Ollie received a bunch of attention about OKC because Durant really likes him.

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Ollie won a title in Storrs, has a big contract, is under no pressure due to the Calhoun mess, and if he goes to OKC he could be out in two years if Durant leaves. I wouldn't take that job either.

AI was amazing. The beating that guy took on a nightly basis. Not to mention he never came out of the game. He carried that team and I can't think of many players that would have taken them as far as he did at that time.

And if you replaced Kobe with AI on the Lakers? We would have won had we had shaq that year. I have no doubt

Slaythe_sl said:

As was clarified previously. The defense on that team carried him to that success. Not the other way around.

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I wouldn't say a defensive team alone makes it that far. Sure, the defense was a big factor, but a team's gotta have offense, and AI alone was their offense, and imo pretty impressively so. Also consider AI was also part of the defense and consistently under rated imo. I think you could have put Kobe on that team and had similar results (probably better), but T Mac, though? Pierce? C'mon, man!

Granted, I wouldn't take AI on any team I was building ever, even as a third option. Dude was trouble. Did some amazing things offensively with little support and very banged up.


In other news, not too rustled that Olynyk got a game as that's how the NBA is, they react instead of act, meaning they'll suspend if someone gets hurt and turn a blind eye on the exact same situation or play if nobody gets hurt, and waiting for someone to get hurt is a shit way to officiate and regulate a sport.

JR Smith only getting 2 games is a bit suspect, though. I thought 3 games was right, and heard a lot of people saying there was plenty of precedent for up to 5.

Perkins should just officially be declared a two-sport start and from now on called a football player, because that dude hasn't played basketball in years.

AI was an offensive machine but his defense really wasn't that great. He got paid to make shots and say stupid crap to the media.

Game 3 Turner grabs Lebron around the neck and throws him to the ground for a flagrant. Then you have the Olynyk debacle. Next up is Crowder shoving Smith in the back repeatedly until Smith finally has enough and bitch slaps him down. Finally you have Isaiah Thomas OUT OF FUCKING BOUNDS fouling Lebron with a ref standing right there watching the whole play. Thomas's response "it worked." Yeah, I stand by my Thugball comment. Boston played dirty as shit so I'm going to cut Perkins and Smith some slack for finally saying "fuck it, enough is enough."

Refs should have put a stop to the shit but they let Boston get away too much. So Boston just went Thugball since the refs weren't calling shit. The refs from that series need to be fired.