No Time to Die (007 Bond)

Xarpolis said:

I never heard the Radiohead song, so I'm going to link both right now. Cornell was always amazing, so it's worth linking.

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Chris Cornell was the best and most creative voice of his generation. I do not forgive him for leaving us.

I think the bullshit with the Radiohead song getting swapped out for something more 'marketable' is endemic to the later series shit as a whole.

It was a lot more noticeable with Skyfall than it was Casino Royale, but they pumped the concept of 'gritty Bond' very very hard in the marketing. I'd argue the closest they ever got to it was in Skyfall's second act. I know I definitely bought the idea that Bond was due to become darker, more grounded, more about the negative parts and isolation of being 007. Pathos and shit.

The movie that the original Spectre song was written for doesn't actually exist. It simply didn't match the boring ass beat-for-beat muddle of Spectre's actual script, in theme or format. I think Thom might've gotten sold the same bill of goods the public did and turned out the best thing associated with the whole fucking project.

Gamma Rays said:

Huge budget + woke changes that will drive away established fans + Covid slashing potential cinema revenue.

This is the sort of thing that will bankrupt the studio.

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the studio was purchased by amazon this year for $8 billion, they dont give a fuck anymore. amazon just wanted them (MGM) for their extensive back catalog of movies and IP to mine, technically Bond is co-owned by the creators family still and they would have to approve/co-produce any future Bond movies.

I doubt Amazon gives a single shit about making movies for theaters and will be happy to let Bond wither on the vine and die until the broccoli's are willing to let them make TV shows, games, Bond dildos, and whatever other shit amazon wants to sell. The good news is that the almost certain failure of this Bond movie will cancel any future shitty "Bond is now a black tranny lesbian muslim" shit they wanted to do. At least for a few years.

while i think it will probably suck, it will still probably do good. it is going to open in china now. UK will still come out for it.

Breaking this down, No Time to Die was last costed at 214 million pounds according to Companies House in the UK, with the amount having increased from 199.5 million pounds due to interest charges. Now, a year later, that has risen to around 226 million pounds, or $314 million, and once marketing costs have been added into the astronomically priced mix, that comes to around $464 million at the lower end, making that the rough figure No Time to Die will need to make in order to be profitable.
However, where the $900 million box office figure comes into play is due to the split between the cinematic exhibitor and the movie's distributors, with MGM likely expecting to take around 50 per cent of every dollar spent on cinema tickets worldwide, meaning the movie needs to make at least $928 million. And thus, the most expensive James Bond movie was born.


Sure, 007 adventures are usually extremely popular with audiences, with Daniel Craig's last two outings, Skyfall and Spectre, making $1 billion and $880 million respectively, but these are not normal times. For context, Fast and Furious 9, which has been declared the biggest movie of the summer, has so far made $642 million since its release in June, whereas the previous installment broke a billion. No movie has come close to producing a figure as high as $900 million. Can James Bond do it?


No Time to Die has been plagued with delays, with the movie initially supposed to hit theaters way back in November 2019. Thanks to a director change, an injury, and then a global halt, No Time to Die has been met with rising costs, with the movie reportedly costing the studio $1 million a month in interest until the movie is released. There have also been reports of reshoots to replace now outdated product placement, with the studio even looking to sell No Time to Die to a streaming service for an eye-watering $600 million. As expected, there were no takers.

jayrebb said:

The family owning whatever isn't relevant because I don't see any evidence that they haven't just rubberstamped anything MGM puts in front of them.

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they are wildly against putting Bond in any sort of TV show, it was a big contention point on the amazon purchase but amazon went ahead due to the rest of the MGM library - Stargate, Fargo, Rocky, Legally Blond, Vikings, Pink Panther, Robocop, on and on and on.


its really too bad, a high budget Bond TV show set in the 60s would be AMAZING but its a pretty generic character so not too hard to imagine other franchises jumping on it, like Tom Clancy or Bourne or Tinker Tailor or the million european versions have done.

spronk said:

Bond is co-owned by the creators family still

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Ian Fleming created Bond you moron

Cubby Broccoli owned the film rights, which have now passed to his daughter.

Retard

Ossoi's face above those abs. Probably.

Ossoi said:

Ian Fleming created Bond you moron

Cubby Broccoli owned the film rights, which have now passed to his daughter.

Retard

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sorry i don't speak cocksucker, can anyone translate

for current year, there isn't really going to be anything to make bond unique. my little reading seems they only control 007/bond, but do they also have say for Q, M, and other 00's?

Goatface said:

for current year, there isn't really going to be anything to make bond unique. my little reading seems they only control 007/bond, but do they also have say for Q, M, and other 00's?

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they could easily establish the diversity hire 007 as some other number designation or not any by the end of the film, kill off Q or M and just have her be freelance for further adventures that nobody will watch. lets not kid ourselves, this is the last Craig Bond film and will be the last Bond movie for the next 5 or more years. i predict the next Bond series will be another reboot and it will be James Bond as 007. not Janesha Bond. not Leroy Bond. its going to be James fucking Bond and he will be back the way he has always been or else they will lose even more money than when this turkey drops in theaters.

Correct me if I'm wrong (never gave a fuck about Bond, just enjoyed the movies for what they were), but I have this stuck in my head for some reason: when a 00 agent retires, doesn't his number designation go with him? Meaning only James Bond is 007, and no one else is. Next agent is 008, etc.

amigo said:

Correct me if I'm wrong (never gave a fuck about Bond, just enjoyed the movies for what they were), but I have this stuck in my head for some reason: when a 00 agent retires, doesn't his number designation go with him? Meaning only James Bond is 007, and no one else is. Next agent is 008, etc.

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yes. 007 is James Bond. its nobody else. anyone else they get their own number.