On becoming an electrician

Kobayashi

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Kajiimagi said:
A lot of the time, no one knows how to read the calorie table in NFPA 70E and they just do the heaviest one. I highly doubt they 'needed' that. I had one of my supers go to the maintenance department at our office instead of me (and I had the office beside the maintenance dept) and ask what he needed for a 208V 3PH service and they set him up with one of those. Why do I care? They charged my fucking job $5K for the cost , btw he didn't need any of it.

The ones that you pump up (2nd part of video) are usually high amperage 480-600V breakers. Also if you notice the guy isn't in a full flash suit. Looks like he's wearing gloves and a long sleeved cal shirt.
Someone with more knowledge of that can speak better about it than me.

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Cat 3 or 4 gear like the first part of the video would be extremely absurd for 208, it would be really difficult to get that much available energy at that voltage.

I think you're right. That looks like a SACE Emax breaker, which is 600V class and >1000A. I suspect that's arc resistant switchgear based on the end of that video, the front panel looks to be in pretty good shape and the arc flash energy was diverted upwards. Regardless, screw all this PPE. Fuck racking, charging, or operating one of those manually anywhere nearby. I'd rather get a chicken switch and do anything dangerous in a t-shirt 100ft away.
 
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Rush job last month.
Spent 2 shifts doing 4 days of work. Whole thing ended with a disconnect a 55 foot run of 2 1/2 EMT up a wall through the red iron ceiling and back down landed onto the control box for a new machine. Black iron air line done as well.
Was right, was beautiful.

Few days later we have to move it all 4 feet to the right because of overhead crane. Zero people shared crane plans with us. I hate doing shit twice…
 
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Hatorade said:
Rush job last month.
Spent 2 shifts doing 4 days of work. Whole thing ended with a disconnect a 55 foot run of 2 1/2 EMT up a wall through the red iron ceiling and back down landed onto the control box for a new machine. Black iron air line done as well.
Was right, was beautiful.

Few days later we have to move it all 4 feet to the right because of overhead crane. Zero people shared crane plans with us. I hate doing shit twice…
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Twice the pay. What's to hate?
 
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Hatorade said:
Rush job last month.
Spent 2 shifts doing 4 days of work. Whole thing ended with a disconnect a 55 foot run of 2 1/2 EMT up a wall through the red iron ceiling and back down landed onto the control box for a new machine. Black iron air line done as well.
Was right, was beautiful.

Few days later we have to move it all 4 feet to the right because of overhead crane. Zero people shared crane plans with us. I hate doing shit twice…
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here is something for you all to consider. The most unorganized, most poorly designed job I ever did in my career was a maintenance facility for US Airways. You know, where they work on airplanes that people fly in. And it wasn't like it was a hard design, everything was moving from Greensboro NC to Charlotte NC (look on a map of NC , it's not that far). Unorganized to the point where the Senior GC PM and the principal architect almost got in a fist fight at a project meeting.

Gonna get real redneck here. Any old school NASCAR peeps know forever Elmo Langley drove the pace cars at the races, his son Elmo Langley jr was the head of maintenance at the airport, and a licensed electrician. He told me to 'make it work' and charge them. That's what I did. On this particular project I had 3 inspections not only before I had a permit but before I had permittable plans.

I mean to the point at one job meeting some equipment was coming (relocated) and I met the truck on the highway and climbed on the back & started looking at the power requirments before it was on the job. In this particular instance, the EXISTING equipment was 277/480/3PH and they had it designed to go to a panel without a neutral.

Sorry to highjack your thread Hatorade Hatorade , I've thought of starting a 'construction war stories' thread myself. The amount of shit that happens during a build out is untrue.
 
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Got to demo wire with a 10t crane today…
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What insulation type on the old wire, MTW? That shit is so tough you needed the crane. I stripped a bit one time and it was tough as hell.
 
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Kajiimagi said:
What insulation type on the old wire, MTW? That shit is so tough you needed the crane. I stripped a bit one time and it was tough as hell.
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Guessing pipe broke or had debris in it, once the crane broke it free went easy enough. I mean two of us could have yanked it loose but the overhead crane was right there so fuck it…
 
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Guessing pipe broke or had debris in it, once the crane broke it free went easy enough. I mean two of us could have yanked it loose but the overhead crane was right there so fuck it…
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do that 10/10 times, not removing but pulling wire with a pickled drunk asshole no wire feeding motherfucker is 100% what caused my 1st back surgery. Ruptured a disc. Love pulling wire when I was in the field, if we didn't have the electric come-along I would use a booming fork loader (Lull) at idle.
 
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Kajiimagi said:
do that 10/10 times, not removing but pulling wire with a pickled drunk asshole no wire feeding motherfucker is 100% what caused my 1st back surgery. Ruptured a disc. Love pulling wire when I was in the field, if we didn't have the electric come-along I would use a booming fork loader (Lull) at idle.
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Yeah, we got tugger we bolt to the floor, we used our scissor lift, forklifts, we even used a big ass diesel truck, one time. Pulling 300 yards to a pole for a church.
 
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Yeah, we got tugger we bolt to the floor, we used our scissor lift, forklifts, we even used a big ass diesel truck, one time. Pulling 300 yards to a pole for a church.
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I did a project in KY that was designed to have 2 manholes. .. but there was nowhere to put them. So I said fuck it and oversized the conduit to 4" and ran spares and deleted the manholes. Then the chain on the tugger broke! I didn't even know that could happen. Bought a brand new 1000' 3/4" Double braded nylon rope and pulled it all with a telescoping lift.

Btw I would not do that again but live and learn. Same place the local code made the primary conduit side of a transformer have to be in red concrete. It was an existing nursing home and they would only let me close 1 lane at a time. First pour I got hit with a small load charge and a cleaning charge along with the dye for the red concrete. That was the pole side. For the electrical room side, I didn't put any dirt back in and poured it all full of red concrete. I feel really sorry for any poor bastard that has to go underground work there.

Same place, someone from the owner's group shows up and starts deleting walls in the commercial kitchen. For those unaware: a commercial kitchen starts at 'fucked up' and only goes down from there. He asked if anyone had any questions and I immediately said 'yeah where do you want the candle holders?' you just deleted all the walls with electrical panels in them.
 
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Hatorade said:
Yeah, we got tugger we bolt to the floor, we used our scissor lift, forklifts, we even used a big ass diesel truck, one time. Pulling 300 yards to a pole for a church.
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hey you didn't post that pull on YT/Reddit did ya? I recall seeing something like that. Hmm maybe it was here. Damn memory
 
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