Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

kanak32_sl

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Sounds like they're in full on cult mode then, so there won't be anything juicy there.

And Brad seems to have finally figured out that the best thing he can do for himself is to just shut his fucking mouth. He seems to eventually figure that out. I'm sure he's telling himself that the internet is mean and doesn't understand. So nothing juicy there until he files for bankruptcy. And honestly, will anyone notice when he does?

The other guys are probably smart enough to realize that this is the sort of mistake which is best forgotten, so no juicy there.

Pantheon in a browser time.
Brad goes silent for long stretches of the time whether or not it's a good idea for him to do so. I really don't think he's developed self-awareness all of the sudden.
 

gogojira_sl

shitlord
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The Braddite mods are pretty quick on the lock and deletes, it's hard to tell.
Project Pantheon or do you mean the official boards? I know my time there is long gone but the only mods I ever knew weren't crazy people and the dude who started it hasn't given a shit about Pantheon for a while now. I thought the only active mod was Hannar and he always seemed like a reasonable guy.

The community went nuts for a while there before accepting the truth and Popsicledeath had fun for a minute.
 

Adebisi

Clump of Cells
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KTAM posted another gay post on PJP:

Let's encourage Brad to speak for himself. This is what I e-mailed him last night.
*****
Brad,

In respect to your recent actions I would like to hear it from you
personally that you took money that was not yours for whatever personal
issue you needed to take care of. I am really starting to doubt Frenzic's
accounts with you and since there has been no other proof offered. I would
like to have it on air for everyone to hear and you can state your case
why, if you even took it at all and if what he is putting out is even
legit.

Here is the offer, in case you did not hear it on my last show.

2 hours on K-TAM, just you and the community. You can even pick the
moderator from the other K-TAM Staff of Savant, Keevan, Rapha or Skatch if
you don't want to have it be me. I wont be in the channel if you like.

You say you want to be more communicative with people, you want to answer
their questions and concerns and you want this project to succeed take me
up on this offer. Couple of other rules though.

It's open to the public, anyone can join and ask questions, one question
per person at a time; follow ups possible.

Your Mods not included. They get more than enough time with you behind
closed doors.

No censoring of questions or screening. It will be recorded and posted on
our On Demand.

You will be given time for an opening and closing remarks and the
moderator has the permission to speed things along if someone is being too
long winded as we know a few of our members can be.

This gives you direct access to the community that is potentially going to
vilify you in every corner of the internet or not. You can come on and
chat with people or people will come on and chat anyway.

I am not hosting tomorrows show, I am out of town and I do not know what
Skatch has on his agenda. I will be hosting Monday night and it is my
intention NOT to talk Pantheon with our special guests.

You likely imagine I am upset. I am just rolling with it. This is the
nature of media. Let me know when you would like to schedule your show.

-Beck

All correspondence should not have an expectation of privacy.
 

Emotiv

Silver Squire
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Project Pantheon or do you mean the official boards? I know my time there is long gone but the only mods I ever knew weren't crazy people and the dude who started it hasn't given a shit about Pantheon for a while now. I thought the only active mod was Hannar and he always seemed like a reasonable guy.

The community went nuts for a while there before accepting the truth and Popsicledeath had fun for a minute.
The official forums. There's about 5 of them that I'm pretty sure don't even think anything bad has happened. They all weren't mods to start, but were quickly promoted when the others started leaving.
 

gogojira_sl

shitlord
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The official forums. There's about 5 of them that I'm pretty sure don't even think anything bad has happened. They all weren't mods to start, but were quickly promoted when the others started leaving.
Ah, was wondering. I'm pretty sure Project Pantheon forums have been a ghost town for a while. When you let people like Nirrtix (sp? don't care) become a mode you know you're reaching hard.
 

Emotiv

Silver Squire
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Ah, was wondering. I'm pretty sure Project Pantheon forums have been a ghost town for a while. When you let people like Nirrtix (sp? don't care) become a mode you know you're reaching hard.
That's definitely one of them. He (she?)'s learning Unity to help build the game. This game that had half a million dollars pledged in kickstarter is now in the hands of people who had a hard time using photoshop.
 

Tannlin_sl

shitlord
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Project Pantheon or do you mean the official boards? I know my time there is long gone but the only mods I ever knew weren't crazy people and the dude who started it hasn't given a shit about Pantheon for a while now. I thought the only active mod was Hannar and he always seemed like a reasonable guy.

The community went nuts for a while there before accepting the truth and Popsicledeath had fun for a minute.
Oh hey, I haven't really considered myself a moderator over at Project Pantheon (edit) for a while now, but I checked the reports and as far as I can tell the only person who was ever banned from PJPantheon was popsicledeath, and that was for basically daring and baiting the moderators to do it. Most of the 'shit storm' has been over at the official forums and here.

I don't like message forums these days as much as I use to. So, I apologize for never really becoming a regular here, and I've pretty much checked out of Project Pantheon and all of Pantheon in general. All the people I care to keep in touch with don't require me to go to the message boards.

There was someone threatening a digital dick punch to the rapid fans boys back at page 50, and I guess I'll consider my nads officially and digitally smashed. I went back to check out my post history and yah, I still feel about the same. I'll just have to check my adult, suburban privilege; but ultimately the risk (and loss) I put into Pantheon still feel worth it. I found new people to talk about games and gaming. Correction, I found awesome new people to talk to about games and gaming, so I feel like I still came out ahead.

I still worry about some of the developers that put their faith in Brad on this project. I hope they're doing well and have success in the future. I don't think it's fair to place the blame on them or accuse them of some sort of collaboration to bilk people of their money. Yet, ultimately, I don't care enough about that sort of negativity to get into a word debate on a internet forum to change your mind otherwise.

Anyways... so what are these Warcraft and Eve threads about.. hmm... :: wanders off ::
 

Xaxius

Lord Nagafen Raider
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Oh boy...

Hi all,

We have some work to do to get the community active again, to continue work on the game itself, albeit at a slower pace at first, and to continue to simply get the word out there about the game. Here's some of what we're working on:

1. I've been posting a lot in the Apprentice Developer forums because I'm starting to re-build the Pantheon Team. But I need to also start posting on the other forums that many more people have access to. I'm going to do that as are some of the moderators and others who I've begun a project relationship with.

2. I'm going to be doing blogs, at least once a week, about all sorts of things. Posting the high level design of the Climate system, for example, was received very positively. So you'll see more of that. Also, I get a lot of questions about how does one build an MMO, or even a computer game in general. So some of my blogs will be about that. In general you're going to get a lot more information from me about MMOs in general and, of course, Pantheon specifically. I've also made the decision that some of the more unique ideas behind the game that we were holding back (the sekret sauce) just doesn't make sense in a crowdfunded start-up endeavor like what VR is doing. So I'll be posting and talking about some of those ideas as well (tease/example: different types of mana, colored differently).

3. Lore! We're putting together a new lore team (more on this later in this update). We will be building on what is there, making some changes, etc. The high level vision of the story and lore behind Pantheon was put together collaboratively, while a lot of the details put together by team members and volunteers. Building on what's there we will do so with respect and appreciation to those who came before us. But there will be a few tweaks here and there -- I can say right now that the Dark Knight class will be re-named (unless Jim Lee calls me up and wants a DC universe shard to collide with Terminus -- then we can talk Dark Knights
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The first bit of lore we are going to focus on is the WarWizard... they've been mentioned briefly, but their role in the history of the world will be fleshed out and we will have brand new art from JP Targete depicting a WarWizard that will accompany the details behind these guys. JP is simply a concept art genius and did quite a bit of the concept art we've already posted and used, like the city of ships, the city with the arch and waterfall, etc. We look forward to working with him in the future as well.

And then here's the big announcement:

4. WE'RE BUILDING A NEW DEVELOPMENT TEAM. The game is entering a new phase right now. We need to put even more together about the game for the community and for, in the near future, potential investors. As mentioned earlier, development of the game continues, albeit right now at a slower pace. We are looking for volunteers who can help us during this phase and, if everything works out as planned, we hope that some of the volunteers will be part of this new team going forward. So development continues, that development will be shown to the community, and one of our goals (along with continuing to make the game of course) is more to show potential investors in the next 1-2 months.

This new dev team and how we're approaching it is different... certainly different for an MMO I think. I've learned a lot about remote development in the last 6+ months. It still doesn't beat an office, and having an office with actual employees is still a very real goal once we bring in funding. But it's also not what it used to be either... it really is a way that people can come together from all over the world and work on and build a game. Traditionally game development positions are as follows: management, programmers, designers, and artists. The new Pantheon Development team, however, because of it's nature (remote development and because of the crowdfunding component) is going to be broader than that.

First, team members will begin as volunteers. This is because 1. we don't have the funding right now to pay, 2. we're a little weary and concerned about setting a bunch of people up as remote, paid contractors like we did when this project started, and 3. because since these people are not necessary local to VRI's home base in San Diego, we need to take the time to get to know each of these volunteers, spending time with them on teamspeak or skype, having them deliver some assets for evaluation, etc.

When we do bring in funding and restart that campaign to reach out to Angel Investors, Publishers, and the like, and when we can have an office and paid employees, we will then look at the volunteer force and, on a case by case basis, determine if that person wants to and should become a contractor or, if they can re-locate, possibly a full employee. But, in the meantime, I think this is a very exciting start. So many people have contacted me wanting to help with this project, and I remain very humbled by it. And some of those people have the talent we are looking for as we re-build the development team.

The second thing, because of the remote nature, the community involvement, how this site is structured, etc., is that there will be more official positions/jobs than the typical manager, programmer, designer, and artist set-up. We are adding moderators and lore writers to that list, and possibly more positions TBD. The Moderators position is the first part of the team I am focusing on. We need to do a lot better with this site and building community. There are quite a few of you who are part of this site and community, but we don't hear from you often. This is understandable, as posts by me and other people involved have been insufficient and simply not as exciting and fresh as they need to be. As mentioned earlier in this announcement, that is going to change. More posting and more blogging is coming. The Moderators group is going to be a huge part of this -- not only are they going to moderate, but they are also going to be posting about various game-related topics as well, and making the general forums an active and interesting place to browse and lurk and hopefully a bunch of you will start posting again as well. Lastly, they will also be reaching out, outside of this site, answering questions on other boards, and trying to drive traffic here, so we can grow this community, again not just larger, but healthier and more informative and open as well.

If you are someone you know might be interested in being part of this new volunteer force and team, please email me directly at[email protected]/* <![CDATA[ */!function(t,e,r,n,c,a,p){try{t=document.currentScript||function(){for(t=document.getElementsByTagName('script'),e=t.length;e--;)if(t[e].getAttribute('data-cfhash'))return t[e]}();if(t&&(c=t.previousSibling)){p=t.parentNode;if(a=c.getAttribute('data-cfemail')){for(e='',r='0x'+a.substr(0,2)|0,n=2;a.length-n;n+=2)e+='%'+('0'+('0x'+a.substr(n,2)^r).toString(16)).slice(-2);p.replaceChild(document.createTextNode(decodeURIComponent(e)),c)}p.removeChild(t)}}catch(u){}}()/* ]]> */and let me know. We need people familiar with Unity, both from a programming and art standpoint. We need designers. And we also need more moderators and now lore people as well.

Anyway, there will be more details forthcoming, but this is a good start. Pantheon lives and we will not only make it through this period, but we'll come out of it stronger, with more people involved, with the community better taken care of and informed, and with demonstrable progress, both for the community to check out as well as potential investors. I am so blown away and humbled by all of the people who have been reaching out to me and volunteering their time, advice, etc. I had no intention of giving up on this project before all of that. Now I am even more strengthened and encouraged than before. Building this new dev team is going to be fun and interesting, and I think in many ways someone unique as well.

In closing, the first change you are going to see is that members of the official Moderators Team are going from purple to green to identify them as part of this new dev team. Programmers, Artists, Designers, Unity experts, and Lore Writers will follow.

I think 'rising from the ashes' is going to be challenging, yes, but also a great deal of fun. I certainly look forward to being more involved, especially with the community, and especially talking about features, new ideas and game mechanics, what's involved in making MMOs, etc.

-Brad "Aradune Mithara" McQuaid
 

Flobee

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Ya know, if you were young and trying to break into the gaming industry... you could probably find worse ways to spend your summer. Assuming you went in knowing how this is likely to go down.
 

Convo

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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I didn't think it was possible for this to get any more retarded.

Basically, Brad can't get any professionals to work for him so he's using pantheons gate to make the game.
 

popsicledeath

Potato del Grande
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...the only person who was ever banned from PJPantheon was popsicledeath, and that was for basically daring and baiting the moderators to do it.
Something like that. Basically, I was told to play nice with the small group of seething retards on the site who were taking Pantheon way too seriously. Rough paraphrase from private messages: they're good for business and someone who they feel the need to attack and act retarded towards won't be welcome. I said I'd go quietly and meant it, but also asked not to be bullshitted to, that we both knew it was a matter of 10 rabid fantards being more welcome on the forums that one person who makes them and ultimately the site look like a festering cold-sore on the lips of Brad's vagina that won't ever go away. When the reply was 'no no no it's just fair moderating, you understand' I got annoyed with the bullshitting so posted a public reply telling a few retards to go fuck themselves. I was on pretty good behavior before that point, though, as it took no actual trolling at all to troll those Pantardeons.

And thus, I helped Rerolled in our mission of undermining Pantheon!!!