Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO
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shabushabu
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Abefroman
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Leadaas
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Lithose
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I just hope that loot isn't so ubiquitous in the game that it essentially has to be produced on an assembly line. I want loot to feel more like the kind of stuff nerds who thought of D&D campaigns created, inventive and unique. Leave the rewards for simply playing to experience or soft cap gains, or unseen pieces of gear. While loot (Displayed loot at least) should be rare, and powerful.
So you don't go to dungeons for the loot, but instead to get your next level. The actual shot of getting a nice piece of loot would be too rare to plan around, but just common enough to make grinding in dungeons more productive than safer places. Hopefully in a system like that, you won't have to whittle loot down to badges, and make items nothing more than statistical increases rewarded per unit of time expended. You can actually have a loot system where a treasure literally is a treasure.
Anyway, just something I think has been lost in the translation from Table Top to games. But I agree, loot needs to be fun again. But that would mean Brad has to rediscover the joys of being a DM, and making loot so it fits into a world, and not just a game
....Have you brushed up on your table top, Brad?
Caeden
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He should of stuck with Pantheon. Rise of the Fallen is up there with Attack of the Clones and shit like that. Pantheon: Lowering of the Raised.
I want to read into it that its going to be about a bunch of Gods playing with our merely mortal lives very directly.
I want to read into it that its going to be about a bunch of Gods playing with our merely mortal lives very directly.
Muligan
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Brad..
My concern is the push to make things bigger, with a plethora of options, and continuing to push the limits far beyond the initial building blocks of the MMO genre. One aspect I felt Everquest did well was really focus on the simple concepts of D&D/old school RPG's and brought those into a massive world. How do you see the "roots" of the genre making its way into the game? I'm all for bells and whistles and pushing the limits but think of what we didn't have 1999 yet it worked. Not saying that we haven't seen good changes and ideas but there have been moments I have felt they came at a price. Example: This is strictly looking from the outside in. SWTOR, gave us hours and spent millions for Voice Overs and cut scenes. Now I have no clue how that impacted development but did that take us to the next level of MMO's? Could the money and/or resources been used more effectively? As the consumers, I found a lot lacking in the game yet I found one of their most touted and expensive idea as a waste of time.
My concern is the push to make things bigger, with a plethora of options, and continuing to push the limits far beyond the initial building blocks of the MMO genre. One aspect I felt Everquest did well was really focus on the simple concepts of D&D/old school RPG's and brought those into a massive world. How do you see the "roots" of the genre making its way into the game? I'm all for bells and whistles and pushing the limits but think of what we didn't have 1999 yet it worked. Not saying that we haven't seen good changes and ideas but there have been moments I have felt they came at a price. Example: This is strictly looking from the outside in. SWTOR, gave us hours and spent millions for Voice Overs and cut scenes. Now I have no clue how that impacted development but did that take us to the next level of MMO's? Could the money and/or resources been used more effectively? As the consumers, I found a lot lacking in the game yet I found one of their most touted and expensive idea as a waste of time.
I've got money on it that Pantheon alone wasn't available. Also, Rise of the Fallen is the perfect metaphor.
Also, agree about the loot Lithose. I don't need a shiny, fancy-named weapon for every quest I complete.
tad10
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Gold is the new Brown.
@The Name - Pantheon of the Ancients was one of my favorite leveling zones of Original VG. Then it got gutted by SOE and turned into a grindy blechy high-level zone. So with that as bg I view the name as an un-intentional screw-you to Silius and the SOE team that destroyed VG, thus I like it.
Muligan
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On a personal level, I hope everything works out for you. I think most of us know the stories (true or not) and I don't think anyone wants to see people in a bad place.
Professionally, you still have our attention and it is also with good timing. The industry is pretty frustrating at the moment but with that comes a crowd waiting for something worth playing. I think that brings double-edged sword. At least speaking for myself, I'll try about anything but I would be pretty quick to say it is just another one those mediocre MMO's.
Convo
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Yep.. We had this convo a few pages back. Tad even added xp/coin being the norm for a quest reward. +1 to rare loot
tad10
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Noooo. No XP for quests, and quests should be uncommon (not rare, just uncommon). The quest grind to cap is a horrible creeping virus that swallows all joy out of an MMO. Also, quest drops from mobs without needing to be on the quest (EQ style).
I want EQ style questing, for clarity. No symbols over the head or anything. If I get some money I want it to be pocket change that offends me more than anything. Item rewards could be handed out if the line was exhaustive enough to reward the effort.