Geez, musta missed that one. First time i heard of sleeper getting killed was by some zerg on an emu server. But that being said, this kill wasnt till 2003 which was LoY/LDoN era.
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Tuco
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Beyond the argument of whether or not zerging was a frequent occurrence in EQ I say who gives a shit if it happens in future MMOs. I'm so tired and jaded of cutting edge raiding from WoW (Even after like 4 years of being away, hah) that I'd rather do the faceroll dragon encounters in GW2 than spend another minute in a finely controlled raid instance and have to look at class charts to figure out ideal combinations of players.
As noted let the leet pro players take as few as they want , they get e-peen bragging rights and tangibly more loot because less competition on drops.
Let the working adults who are in for the fun , want to jump in on a whim , and don't care about the purple shoulder pads being acquired immediately bring the 72 main zerg enjoying the screams of "I died" in chat and omg what was that and so on.
And for the 99 remark folks , what exactly have modern mmo's done to become spectacular successes ? A niche 99 game done well would keep more players longer than the shovelware launched lately.
Let the working adults who are in for the fun , want to jump in on a whim , and don't care about the purple shoulder pads being acquired immediately bring the 72 main zerg enjoying the screams of "I died" in chat and omg what was that and so on.
And for the 99 remark folks , what exactly have modern mmo's done to become spectacular successes ? A niche 99 game done well would keep more players longer than the shovelware launched lately.
Quineloe
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What is flex scaling? When was that added? I also don't think 40 is a high cap. But also, the higher the cap, the more people will have to sit out because the goal for a raid guild is to have a full roster every raid night, unless you really scale your content so the cap is really just a top cap and the raid is actually designed with less people in mind.
Your other suggestion reads to me "community shall fix issue for us". that's sad
and Tuco, you're funny
The argument wasn't about zerging, it was about no caps hurting EQ raiding, and clearly that isnt the case, right?
Convo
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Well aside from the hardest core raiding guilds in EQ a lot of the other guilds still wiped with lots of people.. People would just mess up or be under geared. At least the crew I ran with did=P
Curious.. for the people who say for Brad to ignore reverting back to 1999.. What exactly are you talking about? Classes? combat? what?
Curious.. for the people who say for Brad to ignore reverting back to 1999.. What exactly are you talking about? Classes? combat? what?
tad10
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Yeah the 3 years launch remark is very flexible in meaning. That could easily mean alpha in a year , beta in two and so on. I think Neverwinter was in "paid beta" for almost a year itself recently.
tad10
Elisha Dushku
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I don't see that happening. Note the "modern" on the Twitter feed. Pantheon is going to be closer to VG than to EQ. Hopefully though, it will have EQ loot, not VG loot (VG was a loot pinata), EQ bosses (far too many VG bosses were snareable pushovers) and a more EQ like (i.e. minimal) hotbar/gems (VG had hotbuttonitis as bad as, or worse than WoW).
Also as others have mentioned it would be nice (thought not necessary) if the game went at least or step or two beyond EQ/VG with mounted combat and at least some SB-like dynamic mobs. But please no faux-dynamic "Rifts" or constantly repeating public quest events & etc.
here budFlexible Raid - Wowpedia - Your wiki guide to the World of WarcraftWhat is flex scaling? When was that added? I also don't think 40 is a high cap. But also, the higher the cap, the more people will have to sit out because the goal for a raid guild is to have a full roster every raid night, unless you really scale your content so the cap is really just a top cap and the raid is actually designed with less people in mind.
Your other suggestion reads to me "community shall fix issue for us". that's sad
and Tuco, you're funny
The argument wasn't about zerging, it was about no caps hurting EQ raiding, and clearly that isnt the case, right?
Shouldn't we all be rich bitch status by then anyway selling our lakeside plots from Landmark a'la Second Life style ?
shabushabu
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The crazy thing about Vanguard classes is there were no skill trees and I never, not once "looked for them" or cared... they were just freakin well done.
Heallun
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Most guilds who got anywhere post PoTactics RZTWL fight pulled at least 60 per raid. More for RC. Then they had to skim it down for instanced PoTime and this made some guilds very unhappy
. As for Velious, happened all the time simply due to the crazy hp of some of the mobs (AoW being the worst of course). Sleeper was killed on RZ with an enormous force in PoP throwing wave after wave into him and many clerics rezzing people hard as they went.
shabushabu
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OK... perhaps it is time for a Vanguard static grp to roll through for a refresher, even 1 night a week, or 2 ? If anyone is interested, PM me
Honestly if it wasn't for the EQL coming out soon I'd be all in for VG again , just to see the scenery and soundtrack and so on. But your other post reminded me just how much I liked the Disciple and Shaman class's in VG , not true cleric healing level but still enjoyable.OK... perhaps it is time for a Vanguard static grp to roll through for a refresher, even 1 night a week, or 2 ? If anyone is interested, PM me
A lot of guilds did not do fuck all without an unlimited supply of mana. By the time pop rolled around there were a spare handful of mages left on my server. Granted i got too see a lot of content , however being the mana machine , when I would have preferred too DPS was boring.
Hell the first few months of WOW , anytime i got a whisper would hit the retarget mod rod key .
Raiding was tedious in WOW as well , show up early with a luggage toon on another account . Make water/food and then the mana gems when they were traceable if it was your turn in the supply chain rotation.
Fuck that , won't do either one of those "raid jobs" ever again. DPS stacks , support does not )
Hell the first few months of WOW , anytime i got a whisper would hit the retarget mod rod key .
Raiding was tedious in WOW as well , show up early with a luggage toon on another account . Make water/food and then the mana gems when they were traceable if it was your turn in the supply chain rotation.
Fuck that , won't do either one of those "raid jobs" ever again. DPS stacks , support does not )