Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

gogojira_sl

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Anyone honestly expecting a refund or expecting backers to receive anything along those lines are almost certainly acting out of emotion because those guys just fucked over a lot of people. They're also still bringing in bank and Yogscast in particular has some shitty promotion where if you want to feature your game on their channel and then your game starts selling more, they get a percentage of sales. They seem like a bunch of dipshits who, like Brad, didn't want to scam anyone in the beginning but ultimately in the end did. The difference is they more than doubled their goal, too, so they got all the money.

Now they are going to do whatever little minuscule thing they can do by pulling a few strings and asking some favors to give backerssomethingin return.

It all goes back to what you said, a great deal of these Kickstarter guys and indie developers in general don't have a very sound idea of how to run a fucking business. I'm very, very selective in who I'd donate to and it mostly involves industry vets who've had and understand the publishing side (ugly and good side of it) and just want to do their own thing.

These idiots were promising the world and had no clue as to what they were doing. There were tons of red flags people ignored and nobody should have felt secure handing over $10, much less $10,000.

I love that the Yogs dude said they'd five further details but there was no real value in explaining the money situation. Fuckers got written a $150,000 check with nothing to show for (sounds awfully similar doesn't it). And what fool gave a dude $35,000 flat out with no strings attached? Crazy.

I still like Kickstarter. Some swear it off, but when magic comes out like Shovel Knight and Divinity: Original Sin, it's still got some appeal. Just choose wisely.
 

iannis

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I'm just thinking... ten grand... how much of a trustfund asshole do you have to be? It's not donating the money. It's the confusing a contribution with an investment part. And just obviously being confused about what kickstarter even is.

Kickstarter should start taking buttcoins.

Kickstarter's great, even with all the scams. Its just... I don't care if you're making 500k a year. 10 grand is still not an insignificant amount of money. Doesn't it seem like spending 5 minutes to investigate "well what if things go sideways" would be a fairly good use of those five minutes. These kinds of whales just seem more foolish to me than the scammers.
 

Tuco

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Anyone honestly expecting a refund or expecting backers to receive anything along those lines are almost certainly acting out of emotion because those guys just fucked over a lot of people.
The Pantheon KS is a little self-selecting too. Anyone dumb enough to throw more than a few bucks toward it is probably dumb enough to think their donation entitles them to something.
 

Flobee

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As far as donating to any Kickstarter, it seems the rule of thumb is don't spend more than you are willing to lose. Same applies to any situation where you are giving someone money and trusting them to pay you back, make a ROI, whatever. Obviously most of you know better but, eh, a fool and his money are soon parted. As long as people are able to make vague promises in exchange for peoples money suckers will get scammed. Original intent is irrelevant.
 

Arcee_sl

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Wouldn't mind if it was just a couple of placeholder character models for scale or working out combat mechanics etc, but complete environments? What's the point of posting screens like these with temporary assets when the final game will (supposedly) look nothing like that, and what kind of reaction do they expect other than "Oh yeah, those folks over at Manufactura 4K sure have some talented 3d artists."
I guess i'm just ignorant of how things work in this industry.

(i bet the soon to be revealed class will be the Beast Lo... Master.)
 

Evernothing

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LOL at this "concept art"

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Lunis

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Update: Brad had an interesting meeting with an investor this morning.

no porn in this forum please -tuco