Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

Convo_sl said:

Brad has went through so many team members at this point

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Bradtheon: A ship of theseus where only god-emperor brad remains constant.

So basically.. The "vision" for this game has turned into VG2. They just haven't said it yet.

Nothing wrong with that. VG was the best game on the market before it was funsetted

Not at all but it's a concern. The scope of pantheon started to worry the old team. The game just kept getting bigger and that seems to have carried over. It just increases the cost and time it takes to make the game. What game!?

Convo_sl said:

Not at all but it's a concern. The scope of pantheon started to worry the old team. The game just kept getting bigger and that seems to have carried over. It just increases the cost and time it takes to make the game. What game!?

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That's a big reason VG was so buggy at release: far too large a world, too many systems.

tad10_sl said:

That's a big reason VG was so buggy at release: far too large a world, too many systems.

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It was more than that. Scope being large was fine. It had to do with leadership and the people in place. Had blizzard set out to make VG, I'd image they'd pull it off.

tad10_sl said:

That's a big reason VG was so buggy at release: far too large a world, too many systems.

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It was a technical shit show. I had dual 8800gtx at the time and getting above 30fps was a miracle.

I tried it again before it was funsetted on my 480 and it still ran like ass.

Convo_sl said:

It was more than that. Scope being large was fine. It had to do with leadership and the people in place. Had blizzard set out to make VG, I'd image they'd pull it off.

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The scope being large was caused by the management problems relatedly the lag issues could have been addressed if the scope hadn't been so large and if Brad had done the smart thing and focused on the engine instead of spending 30 million on Art when the engine was still fubar.

zzeris_sl said:

So...extremely poor leadership led to bad decisions and very poor results.

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That and a poor choice in engine.

Didnt we have this VG was a failure because it ran like shit thread back in 2007-2008? LOL

KCXIV_sl said:

Didnt we have this VG was a failure because it ran like shit thread back in 2007-2008? LOL

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Hey if we can argue and bring up old school EQ every other day, why not Vanguard?

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Big Flex_sl said:

So what is my name, or rather - who am I? A fond, departed friend once called me ?a loomer of legends?, which is bright, but quite unrepeatable. ?The Loomer? rings like false gold, which is the worst kind.

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I don't know what you guys find so objectionable about this. Of all the kinds of gold, I've always thought that false gold was the worst...

KCXIV_sl said:

Didnt we have this VG was a failure because it ran like shit thread back in 2007-2008? LOL

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From 2005-2007 we had the "why Vanguard will suck" and, alternatively, the "why Vanguard will be the second coming" thread that never left the front page of fohguild for those years.

Starting in 2007 we had the "why Vanguard DOES suck" and, alternatively, the "what Vanguard needs to do to not suck" thread. I don't remember when that thread eventually dropped off the front page, but I know it stayed there at least a few years.

Starting circa 2012, we began to occasionally get a "Vanguard nostalgia"/ "What could have been"/ "Why Vanguard failed" thread that would pop up every few months, stay on the front page for a few weeks, then drop off.

Those dates are pure recollection, but you get the point.