So their big reveal was the web site right ? Still not waiting to see something else before Sept. Ends?
Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO
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Rogosh
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Dullahan
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The point is not that Pantheon will definitely achieve x because y, but that there is an audience out there looking for that kind of game. Of course Vanguard tanked after that, but despite everyone knowing it was half complete and riddled with bugs, people held out hope it would scratch that itch. Those people are still waiting, many of them here, and ifsomeonedoes it right it would likely catch on with a new subset of players as well.
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Utnayan
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People are still waiting, and with a strong possibility of once they start actually playing it and realize they do not have time to put up with mundane shit anymore in an MMORPG, they will soon quit and play things which won't suck up 8 hours of their day to progress. Time they do not have any longer.
I think it is going to be hilarious when this twist of events happens if this game ever gets released.
I think it is going to be hilarious when this twist of events happens if this game ever gets released.
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The problem is this forum isn't a good gauge. Somehow even with kids I've managed some good stints in P99 which the same old bullshit. I can't currently, but I did when I wanted to. P99 existing is proof that some people will make time for it, some won't, and that's fine.
Whether or not *enough* people can to keep the game afloat is all that really matters though.
Whether or not *enough* people can to keep the game afloat is all that really matters though.
Rogosh
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Recently, I would have to say rifts was pretty fun mainly because of events and the fact that you could actually level with pvp. GW2 tried to do quests fun but they were not, at least to me.
Utnayan
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Don't worry. I am sure by that time Brad will fire everyone in the parking lot again, find a way to keep the game up and running with a bare minimum of staff, and occasionally sell some trinkets on the cash shop to maintain some type of revenue stream, which will only benefit his wallet.
Unity has a bunch of libraries for pathing locally. It's network prediction that Unity doesn't do that well in an MMO-style setting.
You have to know where to place NPC x at a specific velocity going in a certain direction. And also, you have to do that efficiently and 'through the wire'. Easy in theory but you don't want NPCs walking into walls or anything.
That's a great point and I respect that. I've never been that much of a storyteller or writer and I put a lot of trust into making things mechanically sound over logically sound, so that's why I don't see it from that perspective.
I feel as though actual documentation of your game is important, I'll agree there. But things about your story and how you tell a game should be separate from the mechanics of the game, at least if you're talking about a game like Pantheon.
I'm also a little biased because I don't really have a lot of rendering engine experience outside of shaders. More of what I'm great at is the 'invisible' stuff like the server systems and networking code.
PS; Ryzom is probably one of my favorite projects in industry. Kudos for that.
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Khane
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I'm sorry but what kind of game is Pantheon supposed to be exactly? People keep talking about an audience existing for this type of game but I don't see a game anywhere, and the concepts we have seen are the kind of shit you'd see on a napkin at a bar after a few drinks. Nobody knew what the fuck the game was supposed to be after the KS, after the website opened up donations, after the cult took over, after the cult left, and nobody knows now.
pharmakos
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Haven't even purchased the game, must be another Secrets. But I hear the game's easy to hack and the only thing keeping people out is the price barrier.
Convo
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ah ok, I thought you were the person.. Maybe I got mixed up from another thread. Someone on here was able to exploit a game using their knowledge of the code
Dullahan
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You have a strange way of misremembering EverQuest. The average player wasn't the neckbeard you obviously were. The vast majority of players were casual. I played quite casually myself at many points. Yet, I was still excited to play even a little here and there because the game was simply fun both for reasons mentioned by Etchazz and other reasons. Not everyone has to be the best of the best to enjoy a fantasy mmo, especially if the game captures the imagination of players. Thats the difference between a good sandbox/virtual world and the common themepark lobby game where the only thing to do is compare epeens.
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I'd like to know exactly what about EQ is sandbox? Especially more so than other MMOs? The trade skills didn't really affect the game much from what I remember. The EQ I remember had lots of grouping and camping which is not at all sandbox. I consider that a form of theme-park actually. When you go into a zone and the first thing you ask is who is camping what...that sounds like a theme-park. "Hey kids, BB rollercoaster is full right now...we either wait or go to the next camping spot(ride)". Considering this game is based off item acquisition(just like WoW), the primary sign of advancement IS showing off your epeen. I'm thinking you are the one misremembering EQ. It had more exploration and some punishing aspects to ensure no one got to the unfinished end too quickly...and a Flaming Sword of Brad somewhere, or so he promised.