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Pretty sure EA didn't insist on Warhammer having shitty ability lag and (imo) absolutely shitty art direction that didn't live up to even a shred of expectations.
Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO
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Well warhammer WAS different than wow. Yeah it has some of the PvE shit that wow had, but its main focus and scope was PvP. It felt different than WoW ever did whiel playing. It was just a poor implementation. 1-20 it was awesome, and then the wheels started to fall off 20+. Balance wise, content wise,etc.. Then the entire keep sieges never really worked out either which was supposedly the end game. There was just too many of them and it was a slideshow when more than 30 people per side showed up. couple this with unbalanced classes and all the CC, people just quit in droves. Well they did give us public quests too which was new and fresh idea for the time as well.
I do agree about the Publishers though, they need to get off WoWs nuts and do their own thing. You will never make a better game than wow if you just try to copy it.
I do agree about the Publishers though, they need to get off WoWs nuts and do their own thing. You will never make a better game than wow if you just try to copy it.
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I think it's just the KS thing we keep harping on. It's like with novels, where you don't have very long to hook a reader. The KS just didn't have a hook. It was either easy to dismiss it (and no, like novels, most people aren't willing to "wait until it gets good"), or it was the kind of thing where to like it you had to keep digging for information.
Other successful KSers are easy to like. After several minutes scanning the Deliverance: Kingdom Come, to use the 'unfair' example, I knew I'd feel comfortable pledging because they made it easy to like and support.
Pantheon's KS has never made it easy for people to justify supporting.
Agreed, I just figured out of that many of my friends there'd be a few more people like me willing to toss in a bit more (especially as bad as they moan about games). I'm a fairly active KS'er though so maybe it a profile thing. I backed Deliverance thanks to whoever first linked it here. Those guys are killing it on theirs. If their combat is good that game will may be incredible but no matter what, they've done an excellent job selling their idea. They are also believably "hungry" whatever that means. It comes across.
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I'm experience the same thing. That, and there are quite a few people I've intentionally not tried to convince yet. I'm still hoping something more "Hell yeah I'll back" turns up before the end, because right now it's lacking that punch.
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I think the disconnect is '3 years from now'. It's not like there is anything on the KS that resembles the game itself in any way so it's hard for the average person to say 'that looks like something I want to play' when they are not seeing anything.
On the funding side, it looks like everyone got all their addon's yesterday since today has been another slow day so far.
Pretty much like the entire kickstarter. The only movement is all of us moving our pledges around. When we are all satisfied, the uptick stops.
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I wonder how much of the total # is from posters/lurkers here. I imagine it's very large.
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Meh, roughly 300 new people just this week mon-fri. Its not groundbreaking by any means. But its a steady trickle.
I dunno if its been mentioned, but I still have FoH bookmarked and accidentally clicked it. Turns out it just redirects to Pantheons kickstarter heh, wonder if Tyen is putting EQBrowser on the shelf to take his talent to this game.
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Vandyn
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Trickle is the right word. Because if they average that the next three weeks, it barely puts them over 3k backers. In a week that's had an AMA interview, a Boogie interview, class and race reveals, addons, etc., that's not a great number over 5 days.
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Yeah, probably that but most of these guys throw down cash no problem for stuff that they never even load up. I just don't see it that differently but I get what you're saying.
On the add ons, wasn't really anything that caught my attention. I'm not big into the physical stuff for some reason; never have been and I think I get most of the in game stuff.
I did get a couple texts and an email along the, "wtf is this p2w shit" when the add on update came out though. I told them VR had to do that because cheap bastards like them wouldn't belly up to the table properly since bitches just liked to whine about games (thank you thread; you're a great source of put downs). Got a few more bucks out of those conversations. =p And to be clear, I don't believe that. I was just goading a couple buddies that won't miss the extra money. Now I get to harangue them about being p2w pussies. It's a win/win.
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No, someone (tuco I think?) asked Requiem to do it when he was posting in this thread and he did.
Can this thing trickle all the way to $800,000? Unlikely. I was hoping for a bigger bump after the boogie interview. It didn't budge.
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You've lost your mind. I assure you there were people who checked it out the first week and went "fuck no , he cant even run a KS site , I'm not donating to this".
The idea that he lost no potential backers over the first terrible status of the KS is ridiculous.
It's in a much better state now and does need to be pointed out to those who might have looked at it and said no way.