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I'm not the one who was trying to compare Pantheon to Star Wars.you're a fucking idiot.
I'm not the one who was trying to compare Pantheon to Star Wars.you're a fucking idiot.
Nah, you're wrong. This wasthechance to get your shitty, arse-backwards S&M poopsock MMO built but (surprise!)the market doesn't actually exist.you can't be that fucking stupid. just because brad couldn't get the money with a failed KS that was horribly put together doesn't mean the market doesn't exist.
Which is why this whole thing is disappointing, because we likely will never know. I have no doubt there is more interest than the KS indicates, but how much more? How much has the KS cost in potential backers? 3000 more? 10,000 more? Anything is a guess because this KS has been garbage.I think we call all agree only idiots don't understand how a KS campaign is a representative sample of a larger group. That doesn't mean an oldschool/hardcore/group/whatever game would be a smash success, but there's more interest than the Pantheon abortion indicates. Actually, a good argument could be that there WAS more interest, but now won't be. Thanks Brad. By trying to give us the game we wanted, you managed to keep that game from never coming. A SECOND TIME!
Except there are like 30 or 40 funded kickstarters working on shitty, arse-backwards S&M poopsock MMO's that did get funded and will continue to as long as there is a demand for it. Just because this one boiled down to a scam and lies from a fraud of a developer doesn't mean much.Nah, you're wrong. This wasthechance to get your shitty, arse-backwards S&M poopsock MMO built but (surprise!)the market doesn't actually exist.
You lose, good day sir.
Again the dude is the George Lucas of MMO's he got lucky despite himself, he had one idea and a team of people who made it happen while he bumbled around. Sadly, he wasn't even smart enough to keep ownership of his own creation. (which as a few have pointed out might not of even been his to begin with. Is Brad McQuaid the Shia Labeouf of the industry?) The fact that Sony doesn't even want to keep him around should be enough to show he isn't useful.Which is why this whole thing is disappointing, because we likely will never know. I have no doubt there is more interest than the KS indicates, but how much more? How much has the KS cost in potential backers? 3000 more? 10,000 more? Anything is a guess because this KS has been garbage.
When this started I asked what makes people think Brad is going to deliver the game that they want and the answer was EVERQUEST, THAT'S WHY. Completely ignoring the 12 years that have happened since he caught lightning in a bottle.
We won't know.. For the record.. Unlike 99.9% of you.. I'm still riding the pantheon wave. Call me dumb, but it's still the only interesting thing out there besides EQN for me.. I just don't think people should be blindly throwing money in at this point.. But it's their money heh..I guess that's a weird position to take but the effort hasn't been good enough thus far. I don't know what kind of boom they will get the last week on the KS.. The only thing I could even think of, and it's still a long shot,was another boogie interview. Brad would have to push a sense of urgency message tho and I don't know how that would be received..either way.. I made that suggestion to him the other day.Which is why this whole thing is disappointing, because we likely will never know. I have no doubt there is more interest than the KS indicates, but how much more? How much has the KS cost in potential backers? 3000 more? 10,000 more? Anything is a guess because this KS has been garbage.
When this started I asked what makes people think Brad is going to deliver the game that they want and the answer was EVERQUEST, THAT'S WHY. Completely ignoring the 12 years that have happened since he caught lightning in a bottle.
Wouldn't that be funny??Come on guys, there's still 9 days left, we can do this.
Sorry had to.
Another Boogie Interview.. This could turn it around for Pantheon.We won't know.. For the record.. Unlike 99.9% of you.. I'm still riding the pantheon wave. Call me dumb, but it's still the only interesting thing out there besides EQN for me.. I just don't think people should be blindly throwing money in at this point.. But it's their money heh..I guess that's a weird position to take but the effort hasn't been good enough thus far. I don't know what kind of boom they will get the last week on the KS.. The only thing I could even think of, and it's still a long shot,was another boogie interview. Brad would have to push a sense of urgency message tho and I don't know how that would be received..either way.. I made that suggestion to him the other day.
He's already did that with the 'angel investor' tweet, he doesn't need a boogie interview. That tweet is code for 'we don't have enough people backing this thing'We won't know.. For the record.. Unlike 99.9% of you.. I'm still riding the pantheon wave. Call me dumb, but it's still the only interesting thing out there besides EQN for me.. I just don't think people should be blindly throwing money in at this point.. But it's their money heh..I guess that's a weird position to take but the effort hasn't been good enough thus far. I don't know what kind of boom they will get the last week on the KS.. The only thing I could even think of, and it's still a long shot,was another boogie interview. Brad would have to push a sense of urgency message tho and I don't know how that would be received..either way.. I made that suggestion to him the other day.
Nope, it's the KS. More accurately their expectation to get money first and work later and the resulting half-assed weekend effort they put forth. You want my money, convince me that you can accomplish what you set out to do.Im beginning to thing this had nothing to do with it. I think the entire premise was flawed since the beginning because Brad McQuaid and Vanguard. Its as simple as that. For some reason that just sticks in everyone's minds and people dont forget.
Youre only as good as your last MMO.
LolI'm about to change my avatar from "Support Pantheon" to "I Supported Pantheon and All I Got Was This Avatar."
He dimished the chances of any investors supporting the idea - I dont think that he has done much damage to future kickstarter projects (by other teams) that are actually All In for their goal.I think we call all agree only idiots don't understand how a KS campaign is a representative sample of a larger group. That doesn't mean an oldschool/hardcore/group/whatever game would be a smash success, but there's more interest than the Pantheon abortion indicates. Actually, a good argument could be that there WAS more interest, but now won't be. Thanks Brad. By trying to give us the game we wanted, you managed to keep that game from never coming. A SECOND TIME!
Sal essentially said the same thing in the last twitch video.Ramsay: Has crowdfunding proved markedly different from chasing publishers?
McQuaid: Oh, yeah. Boy, where to start? There's so much more information on our Kickstarter page, not just in terms of quantity but also in terms of quality. We have more detailed systems than when we talked to Microsoft about Vanguard. With Pantheon, we're much further along.