Kiroy
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using skeletons instead of srs may be better now? I'm not sure I don't usually summoner.
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using skeletons instead of srs may be better now? I'm not sure I don't usually summoner.
Kiroy
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Really we gotta wait until we see how the new gems scale, which hopefully won't be too long:
Please GGG can we have gems revealed lvl 20 ? • r/pathofexile
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Eidal
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Honestly, my friend put it best: ("SRS is such a 2014 build.") The meta has changed; move fast kill fast. If you play a summoner, you'll never be able to keep up with someone playing a meta build. They'll be constantly zooming ahead of you while you try to keep up and keep more than a few summons up. If you play mostly solo or with super casuals (e.g., shit builds), then who cares -- but if you end up playing with people that are decent at the game running meta builds, then you don't want a summoner.
Edit: just to reiterate, I probably had 400 ex into my character and still couldn't keep up with buddies who were running anywhere from 10 to 50 ex. Obviously, I farmed decently well by myself and had fun clearing tough T16s and Uber Lab... but had I been playing a wander, I would have done much better and had more fun.
Kiroy
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Id assuming a skeleton build would use something for clearing packs, and skeletons on boss. But again, this is coming from a non-summoner player. No idea if that would work.
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Na you use skeletons to clear trash, but it's slower than speedbuilds in general, that's just how summon builds end up being. Only spectres will sometimes clear as fast but they nerfed them a bunch so probably not, although one advantage is you can pick up shit while killing as a summoner(but at the high end you don't really pick up much of anything). If you're trying to push the ladder really high and plan on playing in groups, then definitely not a summoner. But if you're mostly planning on soloing, summoner builds are fine, they're not THAT slow and you have the added protection of meat shields which do help a lot for random bullshit.
I manged to get a 5L skeleton mage build going in that mayhem race. It was really fun but did feel slow. But I mean I had only put in maybe 45idh C into it.
For abyss I was thinking of doing an old elmont al blade flurry build.
For abyss I was thinking of doing an old elmont al blade flurry build.
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Anyone more knowledgeable than me when it comes to melee able to answer a question about the build I posted earlier? It's a Slayer that uses Wings of Entropy as the weapon and Bringer of Rain supported Sunder. Is there any reason I couldn't just use Ice Crash instead of Sunder, equipping Hrimsorrow for the full cold conversion, and still use the same exact skill tree? It should receive all the same dmg bonuses as Sunder does from both DW, 2H, and axe nodes I think... or am I missing something?
Also: Forum - Announcements - 3.1.0 Item Filter and Passive Tree Information - Path of Exile just got posted.
Also: Forum - Announcements - 3.1.0 Item Filter and Passive Tree Information - Path of Exile just got posted.
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Vorph
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PoB says:
Sunder
Primary Wave
Avg. Dmg. - 74724.2
Total DPS - 227908.8
Shockwaves
Avg. Dmg. - 29921.3
Total DPS - 91260.0
Ice Crash
First Hit
Avg. Dmg. - 76474.8
Total DPS - 219856.1
Second Hit
Avg. Dmg. - 68820.0
Total DPS - 197857.5
Third Hit
Avg. Dmg. - 61164.1
Total DPS - 175846.8
[I don't know how to convert the three hits into a 'real' total dps number.]
Ancestral Warchief
Avg. Dmg. - 34269.0
Total DPS - 95524.8
That's L90 so will obviously be lower (still plenty adequate) when I first start lab, but I plugged it in mainly to compare Sunder and Ice Crash.
WoE and the rest are all pretty cheap. BoR is the only one that might be obnoxious at the very beginning of a league AFAIK. If I have to cheese merc lab room 1 chest to make enough currency to buy one, so be it. That's what I did last season too, in order to afford Lycosidae, Tabula, and Rat's Nest before I moved on to uber.
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Ice Crash's stages are exclusive. Any monster hit by one stage can not be damaged by the other two in the same attack. Not sure if you were going for that with your comment in that brackets.
What I mean was that the dps seems low for a starter build. The sunder build I have specced out for level 90 will have around 500k dps, with the only expensive item being a belly, which obviously doesn't affect dps. Just seems you're much better off going with a decent axe and prismatic eclipse.
What I mean was that the dps seems low for a starter build. The sunder build I have specced out for level 90 will have around 500k dps, with the only expensive item being a belly, which obviously doesn't affect dps. Just seems you're much better off going with a decent axe and prismatic eclipse.