Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous

Gold dragon update incoming.

Coming in the impending major patch 2.5 that will accompany the launch of the Game of the Year Edition (you’ll learn more about that soon!), the update tweaks and improves many aspects of this Mythic path.

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new visuals.
new mythic spellbook.
new mythic features.
updated damage/stats to previous spells and abilities.

new dragon domain, blessings.

new dragon religions.

Narrative Updates:

"Instead of focusing all our resources on a single large quest like we did with the Devil in the previous update, this time we’ve taken a lighter but more sweeping touch, placing an emphasis on reactivity throughout the story.

We started from a concern voiced by many of our players — that unlike other late-game Mythics (Legend, Swarm, Devil), the transition to the Gold Dragon felt somewhat rushed and ‘‘out of the blue” for the Commanders who lacked an existing connection to a draconic heritage.

To address this, we prepared two new full-scale (pun intended!) dragon-themed religions:
Apsu
and
Dahak
, available at character creation.

Each of these new religions will serve as a smooth buildup toward the Gold Dragon path for players who want their story to naturally tie into this Mythic but don’t want to be locked into picking one of the dragon-themed archetypes. Both of these religions have a lot of reactivity across the game, some of it exclusively to the Gold Dragon.

Additionally, we’ve added two new story beats available only for the Gold Dragon, where their wisdom of millennia has a chance to make two certain well-known characters take an unexpected turn to the path of good and redemption. This will, of course, be reflected in the epilogue slides.

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2 npcs can be redeemed via gold dragon now.


"Game of the year edition" will be a collected edition it seems. 1 purchase, all dlc included.

heres the reddit thread. owlcat is pretty active in it. "VERY SOON" for more Goty edition info. so, probably tomorrow.

I think the implication is GOTY edition will just be all the DLC. s1 and 2. if you already have them, its nothing new. Aside for the 2.5 updates.

Chainsaw said:

Is RT any good? I heard it is still super buggy. WOTR is amazeballs, but I had planned on waiting another year or so on RT before diving in.

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My experience was that it was hardly buggy at all. The game balance is absolute dogshit, probably because the game engine they were adapting has never been adapted for a CRPG before and they were left flying by the seat of their pants. Doesn't take long for a properly built MC to become a nearly invincible killing machine even on higher difficulty levels and the power level of companions is wildly inconsistent.

I don't regret picking it up (on sale) but I don't know that I'll ever feel the urge to play through it again when I could revisit WotR instead. About all I can really say for RT is that I'd replay it before I'd ever consider replaying Kingmaker.

Gavinmad said:

My experience was that it was hardly buggy at all. The game balance is absolute dogshit, probably because the game engine they were adapting has never been adapted for a CRPG before and they were left flying by the seat of their pants. Doesn't take long for a properly built MC to become a nearly invincible killing machine even on higher difficulty levels and the power level of companions is wildly inconsistent.

I don't regret picking it up (on sale) but I don't know that I'll ever feel the urge to play through it again when I could revisit WotR instead. About all I can really say for RT is that I'd replay it before I'd ever consider replaying Kingmaker.

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Mostly agree and don't remember any specific bugs when I played at release, even though I am sure I hit some. It should be smooth sailing in that regard now.

Without opening the game up I forget which difficulty but I played on the highest or second highest (w/o ironman) and only a few fights took more than one attempt (Chaos Space Marine). Which was nothing like Kingmaker or Wrath, where some fights took 15+ attempts and trash could often be challenging when going in blind (I couldn't beat the first water elemental on highest difficulty).

I still love Kingmaker though and spent more time with it than with Wrath, but that was before Wrath came out.

oddly, they didn't make a reddit post on it?

Greetings, Pathfinders!

We are happy to announce that together with the latest content update 2.5.0 we are releasing the Game of the Year Edition! We will still be working on fixing bugs and you can expect some quality improvements to the game in the near future, but we have no plans to add any more new content.

Game of the Year Edition includes Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous and all expansions. You can now purchase the extended adventure with the click of a single button!

Note that the Visitors from Morta DLC is not included in the Game of the Year Edition, but you can always add it to the game absolutely free of charge. There are no differences between Game of the Year Edition and Enhanced Edition with all of the expansions, and all future updates will be released at the same time for both editions.

If you're ready for the biggest and most epic adventure of your life, get the Game of the Year Edition today! Good luck on your Crusade!

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it doesn't add anything. its just a 1 button selection for the Enhanced edition +s1 and 2 dlc all together.

2.5.0 gold dragon update patch notes.


Rogue trader. said a lot in the Rogue trader thread of course.

short version. Great game. fantastic base tactics system. its just way too easy to become broken OP with all the characters/classes, that it makes the underlying system trivial.
Theres no superbosses, or hard side content like in Wotr. in fact, the actual bosses become speedbumps you barely notice sadly... the game would be far more memorable with some real challenge. especially when you consider the things you go up against. que debates on if the RT and their retinue is more or less powerful then primarchs..
probably the best realization of 40k in any game to date. Companions are probably owlcats best. but still limited. its not the mo-cap, deep roleplay of bg3.
medium bugginess. much of it has been fixed. but theres still some. and reactivity is low.
first dlc a focus on reactivity was one of their goals. and from what I hear the first DLC is a instant buy, and meshes into the base game very very well.
Replay is very low sadly. its not like WoTR with tons of classes, and mythic paths add huge swings in storyline, and content. the three "paths" heretic, dogmatic, and iconoclast barely have any unique content. heretic has some. but dogmatic/iconoclast is either none, or so little, its not even noticeable.

next dlc is SUPPOSED to be before christmas. the 24th of dec specifically.. but, I have doubts. the previous was late, and just came out back in spet24th. (aug 8th was the initial date)
Second DLC is Adeptus Arbites. Judge Dredd.

so, I recommend the game. but due to limited replay. waiting for DLC to drop first might be the correct choice.

Chainsaw said:

Is RT any good? I heard it is still super buggy. WOTR is amazeballs, but I had planned on waiting another year or so on RT before diving in.

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WOTR has a solid claim on being the #1 crpg for neckbeard autists of all time. ( Normies are more likely to go for BG3 ;p )

RT is fun, but doesn't really compare.

Thought I'd bump this so we stop taking over the BG3 thread with Pathfinder talk. I still haven't started another playthrough of WotR yet, aside from wanting to try a different mythic path I haven't done any of the Season 2 content yet either. Leaning towards lich, although I'd really like to do a swarm that walks at some point.

Arbitrary said:

All the Wild Hunt you have to chop through in the last two acts is though with some medusa thrown in. The stuff it doesn't block you only run in to a little and it's all in the middle-ish of the game.

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Freedom of movement provides immunity to wild gaze and it has a duration in minutes per level. In an emergency holy-aura and its 3 evil/law/chaos alternates provide immunity to mind-affecting for rounds per level.

Gavinmad said:

Freedom of movement provides immunity to wild gaze and it has a duration in minutes per level. In an emergency holy-aura and its 3 evil/law/chaos alternates provide immunity to mind-affecting for rounds per level.

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Naw that's alright I'll just take the feat rather than buffing more.

Arbitrary said:

Naw that's alright I'll just take the feat rather than buffing more.

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Except feats are limited, freedom of movement should be part of any standard buff package anyway, and both games are kind enough to provide you with a very usable ranger companion to spread the lvl 4 spell slot burden out a bit. Or if you're an omega try-hard a brown fur transmuter merc in wotr can hand out echolocation.

Blind fight is one of those 'well i guess i have nothing else to grab at 18' kind of feats.

Gavinmad said:

Except feats are limited, freedom of movement should be part of any standard buff package anyway, and both games are kind enough to provide you with a very usable ranger companion to spread the lvl 4 spell slot burden out a bit. Or if you're an omega try-hard a brown fur transmuter merc in wotr can hand out echolocation.

Blind fight is one of those 'well i guess i have nothing else to grab at 18' kind of feats.

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I've been buffing in d20 game systems for almost twenty-five years now. It'll be 25 in August. I'm over it. I take Blind Fight at 9 towards the end of the Summer of Bloom. There's plenty of blur/displacement/stealth/invis shenanigans in Kingmaker to go along with the gaze attacks plus it keeps me from needing to manage another buff I don't want to manage? Sign me the fuck up.

I'm way too deep in to Kingmaker to use default or semi-default characters. Everyone gets ran through the respec mod.

Arbitrary said:

I've been buffing in d20 game systems for almost twenty-five years now. It'll be 25 in August. I'm over it. I take Blind Fight at 9 towards the end of the Summer of Bloom. There's plenty of blur/displacement/stealth/invis shenanigans in Kingmaker to go along with the gaze attacks plus it keeps me from needing to manage another buff I don't want to manage? Sign me the fuck up.

I'm way too deep in to Kingmaker to use default or semi-default characters. Everyone gets ran through the respec mod.

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If we're talking about just Kingmaker then I guess it's a tolerable choice since you're playing without all the shit that makes buffing even stronger in WotR. Even if everyone had blind fight I'd still be buffing with freedom of movement though, it provides immunity to so many potentially crippling things beyond just wild gaze. Jubilost can also take a discovery that lets him cast personal infusions on other people so echolocation can handle all those sight issues, although then we run back into you wanting to cut back on how many buffs you have to manage.

My real question is...why replay Kingmaker? I think I'd dig the OG Baldur's Gate 1/2 or NWN back out before I played through Kingmaker again.

Gavinmad said:

My real question is...why replay Kingmaker? I think I'd dig the OG Baldur's Gate 1/2 or NWN back out before I played through Kingmaker again.

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Because I like it!



The deeper answer is this was my first opportunity to explore the Pathfinder game system. No one I knew ran Pathfinder and then this video game shows up that has a full 1 to 20 campaign and tons of classes and sub classes. There's just so much shit to tinker with. I've got WotR and BG3 in my steam library but I've yet to give them a go. I'm sure each one is going to be a thousand hours minimum.