Project Triune (NMS) (Not THJ we swear)

Nulolan

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Need to run it before you start EQ. Try running in window mode if you're full screen.

yea I always play in window, and had it running before I started. Tried to even cycle through window and full screen just didn't pop up. I am going to try and switch primary and secondary for EQ and then maybe adjust some things in the .ini. Worse case I have a gaming laptop I haven't touched in a year I could potentionally use. I just don't like have my ultrawide as primary since I like to keep my pc on the login screen and it is an OLED.
 

Gavinmad

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sk/brd/wiz was a mistake lol. super easy to level manually because of swarm kiting with DDD and crazy sustain from SK lifetap procs but single target damage at 65 is turrible and the autocombat is kinda bad too. I could probably fix it to some degree by ditching bard for rogue to get backstab plus super powered poison procs with all the wiz AA but probably better to just move on. My new project is a enc/shm/nec super dotter.
 
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Burns

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sk/brd/wiz was a mistake lol. super easy to level manually because of swarm kiting with DDD and crazy sustain from SK lifetap procs but single target damage at 65 is turrible and the autocombat is kinda bad too. I could probably fix it to some degree by ditching bard for rogue to get backstab plus super powered poison procs with all the wiz AA but probably better to just move on. My new project is a enc/shm/nec super dotter.
Rogue adds a TON of damage with Wiz. Double/Triple/Ripost backstabs happen fairly often and they can proc poison. My memory is old, but I think poisons were doing roughly as much as hard cast wiz spells (10k poison and 12k wiz spells). The Anger of Shissar poison line procs often.

On THJ I used a SK/Brd/Wiz on my my second account to swarm kite PoF in order to powerlevel/gear all my other toons. Gear was only slightly behind and I couldn't come close to doing Time with him (I mean, In Luclin I think I once struggled through Vex Thal with him when his gear was close to the SK/Rog/Wiz and got through 3 or 4 bosses before the "fuck that").

Also, I though the premo DoT build was Dru/Shm/Nec instead of chanter for "Beeeeeeees!" AA.
 

Gavinmad

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Rogue adds a TON of damage with Wiz. Double/Triple/Ripost backstabs happen fairly often and they can proc poison. My memory is old, but I think poisons were doing roughly as much as hard cast wiz spells (10k poison and 12k wiz spells). The Anger of Shissar poison line procs often.

On THJ I used a SK/Brd/Wiz on my my second account to swarm kite PoF in order to powerlevel/gear all my other toons. Gear was only slightly behind and I couldn't come close to doing Time with him (I mean, In Luclin I think I once struggled through Vex Thal with him when his gear was close to the SK/Rog/Wiz and got through 3 or 4 bosses before the "fuck that").

Also, I though the premo DoT build was Dru/Shm/Nec instead of chanter for "Beeeeeeees!" AA.
Bees are much better for leveling but dopplegangers with a spellbar full of dots are absolute madness.
 
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Burns

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Digging through the THJ thread, here is a parse from Quarm (DPS was ~20% lower than Time Inny fight, for whatever reason):

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Also, here is a Petcuck google speadsheet with PoP updates from THJ thread:

[SOURCE]
 
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Burns

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Almost 4 minutes for a kill? Is Triune really juiced up compared to THJ or is it just because shd/wiz/rog doesn't have a good way to clear the slow?
Don't really remember the details of the fight. I think I had the insta-cast cure shield, maybe. Is it a disease slow? If not, dunno. I remember not being able to cure the slow on Emp Shis during Luclin, but it was still a fairly easy fight, just long.
 

Mrniceguy

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Shield of the immaculate clears the slow quickly.

Fungus covered Vial from the Ring of Fire event is a 10 charge Instant RGC clicky for the builds that don't have RGC.

Triune is juiced up compared to THJ. The extra Heroics for the stat food/drink make a big difference. The Pally shield stuff was like the last patch before the lawsuit and they were intending to nerf it.
 

General Antony

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Shield of the immaculate clears the slow quickly.

Fungus covered Vial from the Ring of Fire event is a 10 charge Instant RGC clicky for the builds that don't have RGC.

Triune is juiced up compared to THJ. The extra Heroics for the stat food/drink make a big difference. The Pally shield stuff was like the last patch before the lawsuit and they were intending to nerf it.

I think the Pally 1h/shield stuff made sense when it went in during Velious. They were completely mogged by clerics at the time and Palladius was so far ahead of everything else that Berserkers were the DPS of choice. I think Divine Avatar was made less good, Holyforge got added and then itemization flipped over the next two expansions and everything they got made less sense when a 1h knight sword is the top weapon.
 

mkopec

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I made another war mnk and pally to farm hes alredy 65 with 2200aa and lucy era gear. But also made a Ranger pally rogue. I remember that being a thing on the thj near the end. Like I said before only thing I don't like about ranger is all the good cd is 15 min timer. So like wtf do you do between bosses?
 

BigDirty

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Digging through the THJ thread, here is a parse from Quarm (DPS was ~20% lower than Time Inny fight, for whatever reason):

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Also, here is a Petcuck google speadsheet with PoP updates from THJ thread:

[SOURCE]

Why does that spreadsheet make the spell recommendations it does, seems like it should be using higher ranks of some things, there is no downside to using the better life tap for example, or higher versions of some buffs
 
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Burns

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Why does that spreadsheet make the spell recommendations it does, seems like it should be using higher ranks of some things, there is no downside to using the better life tap for example, or higher versions of some buffs
Without looking up the necro spells directly, playing with the SK/Rog/Wiz taps was all about cast time. Once you get high enough spellpower and crit rate the two fast casting taps (chain cast, back to back) are going to out perform the longer casts in HP/sec and you are only using them for heals, otherwise you're going with better dps spells. A 1.5 cast time spell will also proc symp strike just as often as a 3+ cast time spell, so people used them just to fish for symp strike.

For buffs, again, without looking them up individually, it's probably about stacking. For example, you can get Cleric and Druid HP buffs to stack if you cast Kazad (or Mark?), then grove, then Virtue, where the Virtue only overwrites Kazad. Not 100% sure the stacking mechanics w/o looking it up, but remember getting druid and cleric buffs to stack. I believe you can do the same thing with Shaman's HP buff (Seven) instead of Druid too, but Druid is better because str/dex/agi stats are way over cap already, so only the AC/HP matter on Shammy spell.

If all that fails, my only other guess is that they didn't get around to updating that part of it (for PoP) before they quit, but I think it may have been one of the main petcuck spreadsheets in the THJ Discord (so it should have been updated my a few different people).
 
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