SOE Becomes Daybreak / Russian shutdown
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Convo
Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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Soygen
The Dirty Dozen For the Price of One
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You think that was good design? Do you think that was because there justso muchcontent to do? Dude...
Dullahan
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Exactly.
Were talking about a time where a fraction of the people in even first world countries had internet connections, then comparing the success of a niche game to that of a casual friendly game marketed to children of all ages SIX YEARS later. What is there to compare?
Big Flex
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tad10
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Ut blames everything on not-Smed, however the reality is SOE and EQ's demise rests solely with Smed for some of the reasons above. I really don't get why Ut likes to make excuses for him. As to the industry as a whole, an indie studio with kickstarter funding is not going to make the next great MMO. While making a good MMO is not the multi-billion dollar cost of building a new plane or new spaceship, it's pretty freaking expensive. Yeah, Roberts got umpteen million funding for his game, which would have been sufficient for a new MMO, but nobody is getting Robert's money funding for an MMO.
So though the time is over-ripe for a new MMO, the genre is dead because of CEO's like Smed not having a clue what the fuck they're doing so they're blowing money on random projects that get blown up (e.g EQIII, Agency both blown up after X millions invested).
Vitality
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See my earlier post regarding Hartsman the business guy versus the game designer. The decisions were based on selling making mad coin to suits versus what the genre needed to push forward. It's why WOW has never really evolved that much. It's milking the moneys.
the writing is on the wall over Smed, have much to say about him, both good and bad. but will wait for his day of reckoning. though i expect he'll look for an escape pod with a nice parachute.
Utnayan
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Oh look here, a misfit. I hope your trip was well deserved and you are on your island safely.
Yeah let's talk of the days of yesteryear which have no bearing on the conversation because most have moved passed the days of playing Trade Wars or Operation Overkill doors on Remote Access BBS's in 1989 on 2400 baud modems. The problem with misfits like you is you live in the fucking past. Your ideas stayed in the past. And you continually tried to bring the past into the present. Over, and over, and fucking over again. Your intelligence was an ego that belongs in the past, and the only thing that is now firmly in 2015, is your unemployment check. Like Molyneux on Acid, so are the pipedreams of the inept misfits.
But yes, let's talk of the days long gone by. Text based MUDS, FidoNet, Telix and Qmodem, BiModem protocol which allowed THQ and INC to courier warez with up/down and CHAT at the same time. AOL NWN, and the days of paying $9.99 for 5 hours and $3.00 an hour after. TSN with 50 hours for $49.99 to play Red Baron online and Shadows of Yserbius. Eye of the beholder while talking on the phone...Kali and Quake and all the fun things we used to do. No one cares anymore, because those days belong dead with the 386SX-16 Packard bell you played them on.
The misfits mentioned are the ones that destroyed the management aspect of creating these games when based around a broken business model of slow paced content to artificially stall while creating content which was already sold. Yes, that's criminal. It's called fraud. But again, that's in the past.
What isn't in the past were the morons that continued to do that game after game while sinking an entire genre under their bullshit scapegoats. And you and your ilk should be proud, because as of now, not a publisher from here to Syria will touch the genre as a result of your ineptitude. Your piss poor management. Your scapegoats to save face. Your inter-office meetings stifling the creative ideas while still cherry picking a few for the sake of a political maneuver within an organization. You, shitbag, contributed to the decline of an entire genre. Be proud of yourself. While the players such as Furor, Tigole, and many other fans of the genre flew passed your geriatric diatribe and accomplished more in 3 years then you and your "Staff" could hope to accomplish with a flux capacitor and all the time you fucking wanted.
Now go get your unemployment check, and relish the fact that your legacy was gone back when I was riding in the way-back in a 1976 station wagon with some groceries from Byerly's.
Oh and in case you forgot, most everyone in the EQ target market had, at a minimum, a 28.8k modem and a fucking phone line. EQ and it's code ran in a 2400 baud model in Vanilla and throughout Kunark and Velious. More scapegoat shit for the scapegoat professional. Keep climbing that tree of ineptitude. You have almost reached the top of the Sycamore.
One last thing: The entire engine was based off a fucking tank simulator. So you talk about 3D cards? People were able to run the thing with onboard video because it was being chewed by CPU cycles. The only thing that a Voodoo 3DFX Monster (Or II) did at the time was smooth out the textures and add a few frames because like the Z-Axis problems in zone building, the main power of the game was coming from compute power based on what it was SUPPOSED to do before modification.
Shonuff
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I can remember before the hack, being on what was supposed to be one of the busiest servers (Zero Hour) and not seeing a dot on my radar for three to four hours in Metropolis, Gotham or the Watchtower. I haven't seen a game that dead since Asheron's Call 2. I remember, back when AC2 posted server pops, and there 18 people on my server in primetime. The fact that DCUO is now bustling is amazing. The game still has issues, but is much better.
Shonuff
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A lot has changed, but you can log on (it's F2P) and see how busy it is. And those F2P people are spending money, I'm told (on escrow and dlc's).
Utnayan
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I do not think the acquisition has anything to do with developing further titles. It's an IP play to bring EQ and PS to the mobile device vertical. Right now the Russians are probably piecing through the minimal efforts of the EQ Next team and seeing if there is anything they can salvage for an actual game. They now own the Forgelight engine, which was also an asset they wanted. The magical nature of the business side here is that all these products that have been bought were all labeled early access with clauses that the games don't actually have to ship, so whether something ships in free to play or not, it doesn't matter. They could shut everything down and start their own IP sale off or start to make free to play microtransactional pay to win games on these IP's. So, for the future of DB, a Russian company who uses AK-47's to storm oil producers, I would say they are more concerned about making money than anything related to the video game industry.
If that is something they are serious about getting in, I would say these IP's are heading straight for the app store.
McCheese
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The funniest thing to me about Horizons was how their engine couldn't do doors. So you have an entire world of towns/cities without a single door. Just empty doorways. How can you stop a massive undead invasion when you can't close the door?!
I thought it was Sony that wants to move into mobile games which is why they sold off SoE? Why would a company buy SoE and try to turn it into a mobile game company when Sony didn't even think it was worth the effort.