Soulstone Survivors

Void said:

. Seems like a big waste of potential.

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the game has been in early access for a week.

Kyougou said:

Full change list for version v0.9.027h: General changes:

• Endless Mode rework:

-- Entirely changed the scaling progression. You will level up slower, and enemies will have considerably less health, but be more dangerous; -- Extra Lords of the Void will join the battle, which will pose a much bigger challenge than before; -- Enemies are now more and more resistant to slowing effects, so you will have to stay alert; -- Reduced quantity of enemies needed per objective, but more time for you to fight the Lords; -- Overall we expect the new design to be more challenging, shorter, and a million times more performant;

• Adjusted Achievements to reflect the change in difficulty of Endless Mode, requiring less Cycles for the same rewards;
• Added slider in Graphics settings to control the FPS limit of the game;
• Changed Player Area indicators (blue circles) to be a lot less intrusive, but still help you identify where your skills are landing;
• Fixed issue where arrows pointing to towers or any other object would point in the wrong direction in certain cases;
• Fixed an issue where the Blacksmith was very generous and would not verify for achievement completion before crafting weapons;
• Fixed issue with Legionnaire and the Dogs becoming invisible in the menu;
• Fixed an issue where Totem skills were not adjusting their tooltips according to Buff Duration power-ups;
• Fixed issue where enemies would walk around destroyed objects in The Dungeon of Despair;
• Fixed (fore real this time) the visibility of Demolish not being affected by Effect opacity setting;
• Fixed issue where Piercing Shout would not appear as a skill for the Barbarian;
• Fixed error with certain projectiles when you replace the skill, causing an error;
• Fixed an issue where if you replaced Ice Vortex with another skill at certain point in time, its visual effect would stay forever;
• Fixed an issue where locked character names in the Blacksmith;

Balance changes: - Aelfraed will now use Bladestorm from further away from you, and move slightly faster; - Reduced damage of Call Lightning from 120 to 80; - Reduced initial damage of Chromatic Bolt from 70 to 50; - Reduced damage of Ricochet Shot from 150 to 100; - Reduced damage of Storm of Arrows from 300 to 200; - Reduced damage of Chaos Golem from about 400 to about 250; - Holy Fire now fires 3 light waves in the direction you are aiming, instead of one;


I guess Chaos Golems really were overpowered!
Endless Mode is much harder now, its almost like the curses get applied automatically as you go deeper instead of just more of the same.
Holy Fire slaps now. Too bad Paladin start is soooo slow.

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About Endless Mode:
When you have a chance to try this new update, you will notice that it is very different from before, and I wanted to touch on what is our thought process for these changes.

First, the performance issues. The game certainly started getting extremely slow at higher Endless Cycle levels, but unfortunately there are no optimisations in the world that would fix the problem. The problem is that with you being able to reach extremely high levels, 200, 400, 600... you scale your powers SO SO much, that you are firing hundreds if not thousands of skills and projectiles every second, that are as large as the map itself. In practice, this means millions of calculations for physics effects hits damage and everything else every second. There ARE optimisations to do in the game and we will get to them very soon, however, nothing we could do would make this level of craziness scale correctly, it is just too much.

Second, while at first it is very cool to scale absurdly like before, seeing your skills covering the whole planet and all that haha, it leads to a stale gameplay loop. In the previous iteration it was very easy to become immortal, to hit the entire planet with every skill and then you are left watching as the numbers pop-up as in an idle game. It definitely has its charm (if it ran at a decent FPS), but it gets old really fast. Our intention for endless is that you eventually die from a very challenging scenario where YOU are pushed to the max together with your build, and not just your computer while you go have dinner and wait for the level to be over. We believe that with these changes and a more challenging gameplay, we are getting there.

Third, we don't like Endless being extremely long matches. Since the challenge was basically non-existant, you could push endless until your computer exploded, which is not great. We want endless to finish in any amount of time between 20 and 40 minutes. It can go longer than that, but now that is an actual show of skill, not of patience. At times, if your build is not very good, we expect you will have a very hard time defeating the Lords of the Void and may end earlier than that, but that is ok, you can always try a new setup, new skills, new runes, and see how that works out for you.

Finally, we are always open to change. We still want to make more adjustments to Endless mode and will continue working on it and all other features of the game, and hearing your opinion is critical for us. So please, do share what you think! Remember this is still Day 2 of Early Access haha (officially 3 I could say), so the road is just beginning, and we will continue working as hard as we ever have to make sure that the game continues getting better and better."

I just had a 2 hour game of max curse endless courtesy of the skill exorcism. Shits nuts 10+ bosses on screen, but surprisingly it ran completely smooth. Eventually it stops letting you heal at all (or it's a bug idk) or I'm pretty sure you could go forever.

Edit: Apparently you get modified to -100% healing =O

Chimney said:

I just had a 2 hour game of max curse endless courtesy of the skill exorcism. Shits nuts 10+ bosses on screen, but surprisingly it ran completely smooth. Eventually it stops letting you heal at all (or it's a bug idk) or I'm pretty sure you could go forever.

Edit: Apparently you get modified to -100% healing =O

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Paladin is also the only class with +healing as one of their starting ability modifiers, so it takes longer for them to get to -100% than any other class.

How in the holy hell do you do a run in under 8 minutes??? I just had a run using the deathknight. I had the spinning death beam skill at the start and the +40% damage (-20% aoe) rune and everything died in 1 hit pretty much the whole match and I was still only able to get just under 10 minutes.

Its like 4 minutes to get a run going and get to the first or second boss.

I looked at the curses to see if there was anything to increase mob density and didn't see anything.

-aoe is the single worst thing you could take if you're trying to sub 8.

pick up bladestorm, increase the aoe enough so that it takes up most of the screen, ignore status effects other than fragile and doom, make sure you have good attacks for quickly mulching bosses. Sounds like you're already taking the rune where you start with your weapons second power, so on your second levelup reroll until it offers bladestorm and restart if you don't see it.

Well hell in that case I must be the uberest of the uber since that's just what I did a few days back:



No doubt I woulda gone sub 7 without such a terrible upgrade!

4 srs tho, notice the curse intensity, I did get the extra elite spawns. I just went to the bottom left corner and stayed relatively tight in there. All shadow skills (shockwave was a stopgap) is a biggy, as you might imagine for stacking Doom.

I got my sub 8 before I even had DK unlocked, or even most of the high end runes and that's who my advice was generally meant for. Also it looks like you got rather lucky with being offered shadow skills on level up, even with the reroll rune I've gone entire runs without being able to finalize the build I wanted.

Elevating the curse level slightly for extra elite spawns does seem like a decent idea for faster runs though.

Pretty satisfied with this elementalist build, almost made it to boss rush level 5 on Curse 25. Should work ok on higher curse levels, although you're very subject to the whims of RNG for how long it takes to get your build together.



Lightning Beam, Death Vortex, Light Beam, Shadow Ball? (the one that applies curse), Void, Frost Vortex.

I ignored frost vortex in the past but the innate scaling damage on the skill means it is actually extremely strong. You also have solid skill groups with this setup, 6 lasting, 6 magical, 3 shadow, 3 frontal, 3 area. Bit of a glass cannon but honestly so is everyone who doesn't have arcane shield or paladin heals.

Void said:

Weird question maybe

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No, but for whatever reason this game seems to take upwards of a minute to register my controller when I first play. Once it finally realizes what is plugged in then everything is fine.

So I just picked this up Saturday and I'm pretty clueless about most of what is going on here.

I was trying out the Elementalist. First game I just tried his different abilities and then on the second I set a map to Curse level 5 that I hadn't unlocked yet. When I finished the map it was a quick enough time that I had the options for the Overlord and Endless portals. I figured I'd give Overlord a try with some curse effects going.

Dear lord was that some nonstop kiting fun. Not sure if this has been mentioned here before but holy hell try the rune Singular Focus. It allows you to pick multiples of the same skill. I went with the starter lightning beam, chromatic bolt to compare dps.....and 4 copies of light beam. Running around the board with murder boner is pretty cathartic.

All that extra currency might be good for something finally. (Edit: Heh, yeah, just made all the new weapons without a perceptible dent in the bank.)

didnt realize frozen warhammer hit so hard