Star Trek: Picard

Khalan said:

how did s2 end up? I watched the first episode and kind of lost interest but wondering if it's worth watching now that s3 is basically tng

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It ends up with the time travel saving the day... Back to where we were in the first 10 minutes only it's all better now.

And we got to learn about Picard's troubled youth, his abusive father, his tortured mother, we found out 7 of 9 is a lesbo, Q is gay for Picard, undocumented immigrants are unfairly abused, female astronauts will be heading to Jupiter in 2 years, black females were unfairly kept out of captain status in the Federation, female computer coders are capable of advanced practices in medicine (and so are most Latino females in LA), cops are abusive and racist, chicks make the best drivers (even if they have never driven a car before), you can fuck up all kinds of things in the 21st century and never screw-up the future (because the butterfly effect isn't real), phasers suck against guns, Data's great-great-great (etc) grandfather was a sociopathic douche-bag, cloning is way more advance than you realize, Guinan has fallen WAY WAY WAY out of shape, Vulcans (or maybe Romulans) have been on Earth for a really really long time (so that 22nd century First Contact shit is all BS), and more episodes with less plot is better...

Cybsled said:

You didn't pay attention then. Picard was viewing his father and mother through the eyes of a child. With an adult perspective, he realizes that his mother was mentally ill and his father (who seemed cruel in his eyes as a kid) was actually trying to do his damnest to keep Picard alive and try to handle his suicidal wife. Then Picard as a kid lets her out of the room and she kills herself. We don't see the years afterwards, but that presumably fucked his father up. The later scenes in the season vindicated the father a lot and Picard realized he had been wrong about him

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Yup; must have been part of the many extended hours of fillers that seemed nothing like Trek that I dozed off for a few...
Thank you for clarifying. So Balter is not a bad guy?

Cybsled said:

Nope. Basically Picard realizes that because of the trauma of what he did as a kid, he essentially made his father the villain in his memories when in actuality his father was a hero. It's implied that Picard would probably ended up dead if not for his dad, that is how fucking unhinged his mother was.

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Soooooo, a white European male can be a good guy? That's science fiction!

Phazael said:

Literally retconning the best parts of TNG (which honestly has not held up too well) so he and his handlers can be preachy with the SJW shit. I think this show might actually be worse than Discovery.

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I have to agree big time. Again, I remember waiting for episodes of TNG to air (and putting up with that sort-of disastrous) first season. The show had it's moments of glory for certain. But it also had a lot of crap-ola. But again, that was kind of expected in those days, when you produced 20+ episodes a year on a rigorous schedule (and every actor just dreamed of becoming a movie star and getting out of the ghetto that was on-air TV). Times have changed! And yeah-- TNG seems dated and dry and pompous when viewed with a modern-day lens. But it was a break-out sci-fi show. And, not every TV show can make every episode fun (like the Rockford Files).

I guess I am a bad Trekkie, because I could not get into DS9 (but it was a good show, just too long-format for me in real-time), Voyager (I tried), or Enterprise (I tried) and Discovery sucked so bad in the first episode (WHY make the Klingons sooo different) that I soured from time-zero.

Kudos to Lower Decks, however; that show rocks. And, of course, to SNW which hits all the right notes for me.

PS-- non-sequitor, you know what show holds up? Buffy the Vampire Slayer!