Star Trek: Picard

Vic was ok in small doses, but even back then he felt 100% like a "People like the Doctor on Voyager, let's put a holographic AI in DS9 also!"

Regime said:

I love Vic. The episode with Nog was great.

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Cyb said it best. A little bit of Vic was ok but they went back to that well way too often in the later seasons.

spronk said:

TNG had the only good Star Trek TV show finale, change my mind

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DS9 was good. You had to know the show really well, though.

chaos said:

I'm almost through DS9, pumped for the finale. Vic Fontaine needs to fuck off though, jesus.

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I thought that on my first watching of the series, too. But upon watching it several more times, I see him as a pretty valuable character. Give him time.

He's overall a net positive but I can see him grating on people. As far as the show's recurring guest stars go he's bottom tier.

Ending on Picard finally showing up to play cards is wonderful and I fucking love the story they are telling with the multiple timelines but it's not much of a conclusion for the show. In a lot of ways it's an anti-finale. Q tells us the trial never ends and we fade out on what is one more evening on the Enterprise. I know the plan was to move in to film, which they did, but so many of them are just terrible that it actual retroactively harms the show a little.

chaos said:

I'm almost through DS9, pumped for the finale. Vic Fontaine needs to fuck off though, jesus.

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Only realised this the other day.

The only thing more frustrating than the constant Vic Fontaine bullshit is how Kira is so easily trolled by Dukat. Overall, the show didn't even really feel like a functioning station until the war kicked off. I love the Dominion, if Jeffrey Combs didn't get any awards for that show it's a god damn travesty. I have like3 or 4 episodes left I think, hopefully they manage to torture Miles for another human lifetime, jesus man he just gets shit on.

The TNG finale was fine, the back and forth in time thing was cool but the ultimate problem was kind of lame and random, trickster god Q is my least favorite Q. The Prophets from DS9 were way, way better done than Q was. Q is funnier I guess but The Prophets were just a way better implementation of a higher echelon beings influencing mortal affairs. I think Arbitrary is right, they intended that to be the launch point for their awesome movies, they just forgot to make awesome movies.

Kiki said:

The problem was mostly the theme song. T'pol was one hot ass bitch

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Theme song, uniforms and accents (southern dumbass accent is your chief engineer?), I couldn't take it seriously and only ever watched one episode - didn't feel like Star Trek.

Tarrant said:

Accents seems like a dumb shit thing to be upset about

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I can belive a no nonsense scottish guy as engineer or a creepy blind black guy, but not someone from Alabama or wherever that accent is from.

since there's no DS9 thread or general ST thread
Another good thing about DS9, the Ferengi. I may have gripes with how Quark is treated as a character sometimes and the Nagus is just silly, but every Ferengi episode is classic. Do not like Jake episodes or god forbid anything with Kai Winn.