Star Wars Battlefront II
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Utnayan
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Gamespot trashed it so far. 6/10. It goes into more than just the hero grind which they just corrected, but touched on a covoluted and confusing menu system, and the frustration of loot crates and randomized system ends up leveling up classes you never even play. So it just takes more and more time for those as well.
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Utnayan
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j00t
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Listen, I agree with you about mtx being a rabbit hole designed to nickel and dime the consumer, but there's nothing morally or ethically wrong with it. Those are high horse terms to hyperbolize your rhetoric.
You can disagree with his opinion and apathy, but if the enjoyment he gets is more than the frustration he feels, then why should he boycott it? He's only as much of the problem as knee-jerk, over-the-top reactionaries are.
goishen
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Fuck, that rating's generous. So, let's see. It's F2P, which is another word for P2W.
3/10. And that's mostly for the graphics.
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goishen
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Are you seriously retarded? I'm asking, because I wanna know? Are you seriously that mentally deficient, that you can stand up for 5% of gamers making them millions upon millions of dollars, and say that there is "nothing morally or ethically wrong with it"? I guess you're part of the 1%.
Fuck, I knew money made people stupid, but retarded too?
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spronk
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get yer free PSN battlefront 2 avatars at live.playstation.com
game officially launches in 4 hours in NA but only if you pre ordered deluxe edition, normie plebs have to wait until friday. Don't think of it as $10 extra for early access, think of it as a $10 headstart DLC
game officially launches in 4 hours in NA but only if you pre ordered deluxe edition, normie plebs have to wait until friday. Don't think of it as $10 extra for early access, think of it as a $10 headstart DLC
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j00t
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Let me remind you that I said I don't like the system any more than you do. The difference is that I'm not comparing mtx to moral or ethical behavior. It's not. It's capitalistic behavior. It would be immoral and unethical if they didn't tell you it cost money until the bill was due. It would be unethical if the game was incompletable without spending money AFTER already buying the box.
None of those are actually happening.
Its a lot like calling someone Hitler. You are comparing someone to the pinnacle of what most consider evil. It's generally untrue and shoots your argument in the foot.
Also, calm down, bro
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Utnayan
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Capitalism doesn’t excuse unethical capitalism. In this case, micro transactions for cosmetic non game balance fun? Ethical. Artificially stalling progress over three areas of multiplayer to entice you to buy? Unethical.
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goishen
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No, if your "capitalistic behavior rules all" theory applied everywhere, there'd be wealthy people by a far margin more than there are now in Las Vegas and Atlantic City. There are laws that regulate them. They play games, too.
Capitalism doesn't rule this country, law does.
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Amzin
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The fact that they can just blanket reduce the cost of something by 75% tells you how criminally overpriced it was in the first place. Congrats though, now will only take you 10 hours of grinding in your game you paid $60 or more for until you can play as Luke or Darth or some other character.
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Noodleface
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Amzin
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Based on research into human psychology and gambling, it actually is unethical too. But it's especially shitty.
There's been a number of articles written up in the wake of loot boxes this year about game finances, from the development and sustaining standpoint, and the general prognosis is gambling-style loot boxes, especially for non-cosmetic content, are wholly unneeded.
This is all short term greed hatting anyway, because the more outlandishly abusive and evil the companies get *cough* EA *cough* the more people are going to actually demand some kind of action. If all the companies quietly did mild cosmetic stuff like Overwatch (which maintains a very large cash flow as is) it could have been a lot longer before public ire was really brought to the forefront. Now we have companies pushing the boundaries of actual ethical behavior in the name of a few bucks and it will, I hope, massively backfire as actual regulation gets introduced. UK is already doing it in response to developments this year, I'd be willing to bet the EU in general is not far behind. China would if it weren't for the fact that so many of the loot boxes (PUBG, CS:GO) are cash gains for their country, if that shifts they'll curtail it too. USA is... USA, god only knows when or if any particular state or administration will address it, obviously Trumpistan won't because I'm sure he and Mitch think video games are Atari things still. All it takes is a few states to introduce laws though and it will massively affect the outcome.
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Ladro
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Just so we are clear...
Ethics: “moral principles that govern a person's behavior or the conducting of an activity.”
Morality: “principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.”
In this case, charging people for content that is artificially inflated to create a psychological desire to short cut it wth cash or to trigger the gamblers addiction and keep them paying is morally wrong and thus unethical.
Ethics: “moral principles that govern a person's behavior or the conducting of an activity.”
Morality: “principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.”
In this case, charging people for content that is artificially inflated to create a psychological desire to short cut it wth cash or to trigger the gamblers addiction and keep them paying is morally wrong and thus unethical.
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Rafterman
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The rates were too high, they lowered it. At these new rates you can unlock Vader in an hour and all 6 of them in a couple of days.
It's never been 40 hours to unlock a character. Repeating bullshit doesn't make it any less bullshit.
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Ritley
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Apparently for completing the campaign you used to get 20k, now you get 5k. So rewards scaled back to match the new cost!
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