Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)

Gavinmad

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The prequels win, they have the high ground.

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I'm not sure I want another glimpse into the mind of Mcintosh but what is this misreading? The Emperor tempts Luke and unlike his father Luke does not fall. When the Emperor goes to kill Luke his father sacrifices himself to save the life of his son and in doing so redeems himself. Evil is thwarted and then thwarted again.

The Emperor is a Progressive Socialist who wants to bring order and peace to the galaxy by banning all hate speech and giving everyone universal basic midicholorians, Darth Vader is a Nazi who intends to kill all undocumented slave robots (ALLEGORY) and Luke sides with him and wants to restore only old white men to power. In TLJ Luke realizes that white Jedi's are the problem and he must burn The Bible The Constitution The Sacred Texts and let a womyn run things.

Also Vader tells Luke that if he does not join him then his sister will, which robs Leia of her own agenda and turns her into a prop for a cisgender heterodox father/nontrans-"son" relationship, which is the ultimate hate speech of toxic masculinity.

When Luke rejects socialism then Vader does what capitalists always do, attack the peaceful socialist's safe space and throw them down a main reactor shaft.

Now let me tell you the story of Darth Plageuis The Wise, its not a story many capitalists would tell you...
 
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Ossoi

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Yea episode VIII might be worse than prequels.

Hated the prequels but I've definitely rewatched Ep 3 within the last few years - maybe after Rogue One came out. Downloaded 8 and couldn't even get 20 minutes into it.
 

Jozu

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Same. I shut off VIII after about 30 minutes. I still cant believe I just didnt fucking care.

That is pretty fucking terrible for a Star Wars movie. I can think of some pretty awful movies I have sat through until the end.

I did know some of the plot elements before I sat down to watch it, so maybe that had an influence, but either way it was a terrible movie.
 

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The Emperor is a Progressive Socialist who wants to bring order and peace to the galaxy by banning all hate speech and giving everyone universal basic midicholorians, Darth Vader is a Nazi who intends to kill all undocumented slave robots (ALLEGORY) and Luke sides with him and wants to restore only old white men to power. In TLJ Luke realizes that white Jedi's are the problem and he must burn The Bible The Constitution The Sacred Texts and let a womyn run things.

Also Vader tells Luke that if he does not join him then his sister will, which robs Leia of her own agenda and turns her into a prop for a cisgender heterodox father/nontrans-"son" relationship, which is the ultimate hate speech of toxic masculinity.

When Luke rejects socialism then Vader does what capitalists always do, attack the peaceful socialist's safe space and throw them down a main reactor shaft.

Now let me tell you the story of Darth Plageuis The Wise, its not a story many capitalists would tell you...

Some may think he is just making this shit up to be a satire, but this type of stuff is actually how the SJWs see the orig trilogy
 
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sukik

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I'm not sure I want another glimpse into the mind of Mcintosh but what is this misreading? The Emperor tempts Luke and unlike his father Luke does not fall. When the Emperor goes to kill Luke his father sacrifices himself to save the life of his son and in doing so redeems himself. Evil is thwarted and then thwarted again.
His string of tweets say that it is better to not fight the big bad, even if it is just, because it makes you evil. And that by not fighting he'd finished his training. The entire thing is pretty insulting if you're a fan of Luke, but if it was some random space hobo Rey went to for training I doubt anyone would care. At least the Luke parts of the film were coherent. Unlike the waste of an hour that was Rose and Finn, the incoherent mess that was anything involving Poe, or the complete wasted opportunity that was Rey and Kylo
 
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sukik

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What was there to possibly misread?
That Luke is a tough and strong hero, who shows pity on Vader after he'd beaten him down with his toxic masculinity.
 
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Chukzombi

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His string of tweets say that it is better to not fight the big bad, even if it is just, because it makes you evil. And that by not fighting he'd finished his training. The entire thing is pretty insulting if you're a fan of Luke, but if it was some random space hobo Rey went to for training I doubt anyone would care. At least the Luke parts of the film were coherent. Unlike the waste of an hour that was Rose and Finn, the incoherent mess that was anything involving Poe, or the complete wasted opportunity that was Rey and Kylo
I disagree, the Luke parts are stupid and worst of all, humiliating. Luke drinking alien tit milk? Luke killing his nephew? Wtf kind of shit is that?
 
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#poedidnothingwrong

He used the most retarded vertical drop bombers in the only somewhat practical situation they could be used in and they would have simply been blown up along with the rest of the fleet in less than a day. Did he get an apology? Hell no.
 
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#poedidnothingwrong

He used the most retarded vertical drop bombers in the only somewhat practical situation they could be used in and they would have simply been blown up along with the rest of the fleet in less than a day. Did he get an apology? Hell no.
Dont trigger me about gravity bombs in space on a platform so slow theres no reason they couldnt be out manuevered. Like ship just had to strafe up and tumble them by running into them.
 

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The gravity bombs each had 4 units of gravity in them, according to the technical journal. Thats why they had to fly so slow, it's like the nitro glycerin in the Wages of Fear.
 

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I finally watched this today.

I believe that will be the last 3 dollars I ever give this franchise.

What a ham-fisted disaster.
 
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Jozu

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I dont understand how Disney couldn't see this movie would be a disaster from a PR and fan standpoint.

They turned over capital, but how did the Disney brass become so out of touch with their audience and fan base? The entire Luke situation was so poorly handled, it literally ruined the entire movie if not the franchise itself.

Wasted screen time can be forgiven, little character progression and growth can be ignored, but such a critical story element such as Luke Fucking Skywalker cannot be fucked up.

The Snoke nonsense, plot holes and misguided pacing are glaring mistakes on their own as well, but what Johnson did with Luke, and Hamill's negative reaction were devastating. Not even the most hardcore fans could stomach it.

What's worse is that situation overshadowed Rey, Kylo Ren, and pretty much every other important story element.

The good guys basically achieved nothing, Luke did nothing then died. The End.
 
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Sludig

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As far as the good guys accomplishing nothing, I feel like that part is just mostly trying to mimic Empire strikes back. If it wasn't already hamfisted enough with last one = new hope. This one with the fucking desert trenches ala Hoth battle scene etc. Granted again with the ultimate plot failure, the lets just hyperspace at things to destroy a fucking super starship seemingly as big as a state practically........ they did plenty of wrecking of imperial assets.
 

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The best is when people defend the slow chase saying there was no canon stuff that shows how they could get infront of then... like a middle finger - in solo they show the Falcon doing a short range Hyper space jump lolol

Every fan of starwars was holding on to slivers of hope... and they had some...till Luke died.
 

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I dont understand how Disney couldn't see this movie would be a disaster from a PR and fan standpoint.

They turned over capital, but how did the Disney brass become so out of touch with their audience and fan base? The entire Luke situation was so poorly handled, it literally ruined the entire movie if not the franchise itself.

Here is your answer, if you can endure the video

 
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Chukzombi

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As far as the good guys accomplishing nothing, I feel like that part is just mostly trying to mimic Empire strikes back. If it wasn't already hamfisted enough with last one = new hope. This one with the fucking desert trenches ala Hoth battle scene etc. Granted again with the ultimate plot failure, the lets just hyperspace at things to destroy a fucking super starship seemingly as big as a state practically........ they did plenty of wrecking of imperial assets.
except ESB had a buildup to a massive showdown in ROJ, it made you look forward to the movie. there is no buildup here. kylo is not a formidable enemy, he's just a brat. there is no rebels and they have no commanders.
 
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