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Are there any new games out that play like the Heroes of Might and Magic series but modernized? I put hundreds of hours into Heroes 2 and 3 with my friends in high school and was wondering what became of that genre.

LiquidDeath said:

Are there any new games out that play like the Heroes of Might and Magic series but modernized? I put hundreds of hours into Heroes 2 and 3 with my friends in high school and was wondering what became of that genre.

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Take a look at Fallen Enchantress.

LiquidDeath said:

Are there any new games out that play like the Heroes of Might and Magic series but modernized? I put hundreds of hours into Heroes 2 and 3 with my friends in high school and was wondering what became of that genre.

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They still make it, but it's bullshit.

Heroes Of Might And Magic VII

I'd suggest that you take a look at Fallen Enchantress, too.

For a 4x in Space, take a gander at Stellaris. My favorite space 4x at the time.

Also +1 for Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes. Load up on an arseload of heroes who can summon and just roll around the countryside stomping monsters, cities, and the rare dragon.

goishen said:

They still make it, but it's bullshit.

Heroes Of Might And Magic VII

I'd suggest that you take a look at Fallen Enchantress, too.

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Don't waste time on the base game. Get the expanded edition.

Its in "space" but you'll enjoy it if you take it as an arcade naval ship combat. I found it compelling enough to complete, I wasn't about complaining what it wasn't. Its a fun little game to broadside the fuck out of shit in a space skin.

If you want the arcade space shooter. Everspace is the best game on steam. If you like rogue likes make it double.

I really, really hate 'Early Access'. After purchasing many that turned into flops (Starting with the game that forced Steam to add the 'Early Access' tag - TOWNS), I try to avoid picking them up. But every game I have an interest in (Pit People, Space Pirates and Zombies 2, Oxygen Not Included, and Rimworld) is in Early Access and so very few games ever make it to a 'finished' state (if ever) until years and years later.

There should be a way to filter OUT Early Access games from my Steam search/sale window/whatever.

LiquidDeath said:

Are there any new games out that play like the Heroes of Might and Magic series but modernized? I put hundreds of hours into Heroes 2 and 3 with my friends in high school and was wondering what became of that genre.

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Heroes 3 Complete + HD mode + Horn of the Abyss fan expansion are still the best there is. The HD mod also has a ton of QoL improvements for armies and so on. I think I even made a thread here about it, it's one of the mainstays on my HDD.
Heroes 5 with all the expansions come second, with better balance between magic/combat abilities, but not everybody likes them. I think it still holds up remarkably well.

All the new versions and takes on the series have been pretty shallow or with glaring problems. Go replay the classics.

Utnayan Rebel Galaxy is pretty budget take on the genre, basically a lot of flying around with procedurally generated missions and enemies and level scaling to keep the difficulty up, so every once in a while you fight the same enemies as before, but suddenly you are getting destroyed. It's not bad, but I got bored about 10h in, since the bulk of the gameplay is introduced in the first 2 hours and then you just go through the motions. Gameplay being only 2D also got annoying

Rebel Galaxy also suffers from a MASSIVE grind to get the cash for the higher tier ships. Also, it is locked to a single axis, which always irks me. Less of a space sim fighter and more tallships in space.

If you''re thinking 4X, then I'd suggest Stars In Shadow. It's the closest that you'll ever find to MoO2. Stellaris can be fun, but I've heard that the mid-end game can be a tad of a grind.

Rime said:

I really, really hate 'Early Access'. After purchasing many that turned into flops (Starting with the game that forced Steam to add the 'Early Access' tag - TOWNS), I try to avoid picking them up. But every game I have an interest in (Pit People, Space Pirates and Zombies 2, Oxygen Not Included, and Rimworld) is in Early Access and so very few games ever make it to a 'finished' state (if ever) until years and years later.

There should be a way to filter OUT Early Access games from my Steam search/sale window/whatever.

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I agreed with this a few years ago, but if you do a little research into the game it should be evidenced how polished it is. For instance, 7 Days to Die I've put in almost 200 hours into, and it may never get released. But it's pretty darn polished. The EA thing is that it's just getting tons of updates still.

Rust was similar, and I felt I got burned at the time, but I still put a lot of hours into it.

First Steam sale I might actually buy a few games simply because I have a Steam Link on the way from Amazon (eventually will ship I hope?) and so many more games sound appealing when I know I'll be playing them on my big screen from my couch.

I'm willing to buy any game I'll play right then, which counts for Early Access stuff too. I don't think I have any EA games I haven't put a full 20+ hours into and I have a ton of them. Some just keep on giving too, like Empyrion, where I replay them every once in a while to try out new content. There's plenty of "released" games in worse state than many EA games so I think the whole categorization is a bit arbitrary. They DO need to add an "Abandoned" flag to games somehow though.

Finally really fucking with my steam link and it's incredible with a hard line. Hyper Light Drifter from the couch is amazing, highly recommend.

Rime said:

I really, really hate 'Early Access'. After purchasing many that turned into flops (Starting with the game that forced Steam to add the 'Early Access' tag - TOWNS), I try to avoid picking them up. But every game I have an interest in (Pit People, Space Pirates and Zombies 2, Oxygen Not Included, and Rimworld) is in Early Access and so very few games ever make it to a 'finished' state (if ever) until years and years later.

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I can vouch for Rimworld, I've put hundreds of hours into it already. It's very playable and I don't think it's crashed once. Good modding scene too if you want to change things up or tweak your gameplay.