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A lot of it will be locked behind a DLC. Paradox is notorious for their many many DLCs for their games.
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Yeah the way Paradox does DLCs is - free content is balance, system reworks, adding more flavor to the world, etc. paid (DLC) stuff is basically new content: ie, new game systems, more story, etc. Each time a DLC comes out, everyone gets something, and those that want to expand the content from the base game can do so by purchasing the DLC.
I actually like the way Paradox handles their games from a consumer standpoint, though a lot of people are critical of it. You get to decide on each DLC if you want it or not, and the game is fully functional (though, might be a little sparse on content) with just the base game.
I think where Paradox could be better though, is packaging all of their old DLC (2+ years old) for a decent price. Like getting into EU4 likely costs a few hundred bucks, to get every functional content DLC for example, when it should only cost like, 100 or so bucks (base game + last 2 DLCs or something + gold pack that includes all DLC 2+ years old or something).
Edit - so in regards to Cherryh, a lot of the updates we've seen from Paradox are actually balance changes (which are free). Like both the hyper-lane rework and the fleet designer rework both look like free content to me
I actually like the way Paradox handles their games from a consumer standpoint, though a lot of people are critical of it. You get to decide on each DLC if you want it or not, and the game is fully functional (though, might be a little sparse on content) with just the base game.
I think where Paradox could be better though, is packaging all of their old DLC (2+ years old) for a decent price. Like getting into EU4 likely costs a few hundred bucks, to get every functional content DLC for example, when it should only cost like, 100 or so bucks (base game + last 2 DLCs or something + gold pack that includes all DLC 2+ years old or something).
Edit - so in regards to Cherryh, a lot of the updates we've seen from Paradox are actually balance changes (which are free). Like both the hyper-lane rework and the fleet designer rework both look like free content to me
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Loser Araysar
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Ive been playing in Ironman mode to get Steam achievements and been struggling. Usually some fuckface with twice the size of my fleet will storm in and beat the shit out of me like 30 years in.
Been wondering what i've been doing wrong and came upon these 2 guides:
Stellaris beginners guide • r/Stellaris
New player. Base game no DLC. Enemies keep showing up with 7-8K strength fleets while I am still struggling to field a 2K fleet. I need good tutorials. Help? • r/Stellaris
Tried them out and had a really tremendous improvement on my development and so forth. If you're struggling with beginning and expansion - check them out, they are really good. One of the big game changers (and i was kinda thinking about this for a while but wasnt bold enough to try) is to actually build monuments as the first building on each planet (including the home planet when you begin) so you can immediately can start harvesting unity points for traditions, it might not seem like a lot, but 30 years in, you'll be able to get like 8 traditions, where normally you'd get like 2, maaaybe 3 if you didnt build any.
Been wondering what i've been doing wrong and came upon these 2 guides:
Stellaris beginners guide • r/Stellaris
New player. Base game no DLC. Enemies keep showing up with 7-8K strength fleets while I am still struggling to field a 2K fleet. I need good tutorials. Help? • r/Stellaris
Tried them out and had a really tremendous improvement on my development and so forth. If you're struggling with beginning and expansion - check them out, they are really good. One of the big game changers (and i was kinda thinking about this for a while but wasnt bold enough to try) is to actually build monuments as the first building on each planet (including the home planet when you begin) so you can immediately can start harvesting unity points for traditions, it might not seem like a lot, but 30 years in, you'll be able to get like 8 traditions, where normally you'd get like 2, maaaybe 3 if you didnt build any.
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Aaron
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I agree with you
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, they need to basically do what Blizzard does with WoW and basically just view everything older than 2 expansion to be the "base" game. I doubt they'd lose much on it. Those who don't by the current expansion right away probably will not buy it until a summer/winter sale so just lump all the old ones together and sell it for $15 or $20.
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Sure do! Look at other Paradox games. About half of the DLC they put out is game-play changes/expansion stuff. Other half is cosmetic/fluff.
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Yeah but why would you buy the cosmetic stuff? Like in EU4 they have the unit packs. You're always zoomed out so far you can't even see the units. So wtf?
Loser Araysar
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I'm still playing the base game since I took a year break when all those DLCs and expansions came out. I didnt want to buy all 2 or 3 at $20 a pop, so I'm waiting for them to bundle all that shit together as much as possible then I'll buy it when i buy Apocalypse in 2 weeks.
Oh sorry, I didn't mean the cosmetic stuff - I just mean the gameplay DLCs.
Like can you imagine playing EU4 without spending mana on development? That feature isn't in the base game - yet it feels integral to the game at this point. Imo, 2+ year old gameplay DLCs should just package into the base game. Its what other strategy developers (such as Firaxis) do, especially since EU4, CK2, Stellaris etc are similar to civ games - that first or 2nd DLC usually takes a game from average/good to great.
Actually you know what, I think maybe they should package their old cosmetic DLC. I sure as heck not buying Mongol faces (no offense to my Mongol bros - Kublai4Pres!), but I might buy a pack that has like, all faces from all cultures in it. I'm a huge fan of Paradox (I've been posting about CK2/EU4 since the start really) but even I won't throw money at superfluous stuff like art. Maybe I would if it was packaged into like 1-2 bundles though.
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