zombiewizardhawk
Potato del Grande
And nothing of value would have been lost.Apple would never have made it out of the homebrew hobby clubs without Jobs. Woz was content working his low profile job at HP for the rest of his life.
And nothing of value would have been lost.Apple would never have made it out of the homebrew hobby clubs without Jobs. Woz was content working his low profile job at HP for the rest of his life.
That is such mis information.I'll stay away from the discussion as much as possible as I know it will come off too fanboi-ish but what we do need to thank Jobs/Apple for is keeping the industry healthy. I heard a gentlemen at a conference refer to Apple "post-Jobs" as renovating instead of innovating but regardless of their current state of rolling out products in terms of quality and/or innovation, their devices are forcing competitors to stay on their toes. The success of the iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc., regardless if they initiated the success of the product genres or not, we're the benefactors as the consumers. So like him/them or not, a lot of good stuff is coming out and this has been one of the best decade or two of my career and Apple has been a large part.
From a business perspective, sure those are all horrible practices but mean nothing to the consumer at the product level which is what I was referring to and primarily from the perspective of my profession.That is such mis information.
A) Jobs/Apple held all of their money out of the US , un taxed
B) Besides the apple stores ( which there are very few) the people who were employed by Apple to make all of there items are all in China working in the worst conditions in the world.
C) Jobs participated in not only illegal stock practices, he also was on the steering committee in one of the most illegal collusion of companies in US history. Want to leave Apple and go work somewhere else? Good luck that black list will never allow it.
Jobs hurt the industry way more then he ever helped it.
D) As far as innovation, that is highly subjective, their products were always just cleaned up versions of what already existed, and packaged to the public as you are worthless if you don't own this item.
It really has just been an ipod touch with different features for over a decade....
Uhh that is not what you stated in your above post. You clearly said everyone should bow down and thank jobs for keeping the industry healthy.So again, no one is asking you to put Steve Jobs posters in your house and make him the wallpaper of your Samsung phone but to remove or deny any credibility to his cultural impact is crazy.
Best to agree to disagree I guess. You took my previous post out of context. The comment was directed at products and devices. You took it in regards to business practices and finances which I addressed in the post above. Your points have been consistent and you've been riding the same 3-5 points in every retort. My point was regardless of what happened on the balance sheets or from an ethical perspective, we have a lot of good devices not just from Apple but from a lot of companies and people in education, medical, financial, and even fitness industry are benefiting from these products. My only comment was you have to attribute much of that progress and development to Apple.Uhh that is not what you stated in your above post. You clearly said everyone should bow down and thank jobs for keeping the industry healthy.
There has never been a more untrue statement, and shows how little you know of what was going on.
Tycho_sl said:Apple was always a cult, but now it?s a cult based on a cult. The revelation has been attenuated, interpreted, made progressively less divine until you see a presentation like the one they gave the other day.
Penny Arcade - News - LinguamancyTycho_sl said:Apple was always a cult, but now it?s a cult based on a cult. The revelation has been attenuated, interpreted, made progressively less divine until you see a presentation like the one they gave the other day.
I once attended the opening ceremony for Sakura-Con, they invited us for some reason, and they sat me next to a Japanese cultural ambassador which was double terrifying, because try as I might I could not match his tone of serene reverence for the proceedings. I don?t even have that gear. I am the part of this machine that grinds reality into paste.
It was an anniversary for the show, and there was a point during this opening thing where they proceeded to cut, serve, and eat a cake on stage. I have no fear of cake, ask anybody. But that?s not when you do that. Apple just sat up there and ate cake after fucking cake, and I wouldn?t even say these were earned cakes. They weren?t even their cakes, to maintain the metaphor. Indeed, in many cases they just said they were going to start doing shit everybody else has been doing for literal years, all to the hooting of their lobotomized aerie. In the same way that Nike endeavored to brand the calorie, Apple is trying to brand the .gif. This is a rudderless outfit whose inertia alone is carving the Earth.
I?ve floated in and out of that context for years; there isn?t anything really wrong with Macs, but eventually I remember that I like playing videogames on computers and wake up as though from a dream. Every other use for a computer has been relegated to that of a terminal: my ?computer? runs on a Google rackmount somewhere, I interact with it via browsers from anywhere. Originally, I had typed ?bowsers? there. I want to make it clear: I definitely don?t interact with the Cloud via multiple evil turtle kings.
Well, at least it?s not Android. There, perhaps, we may find common ground.
Your reality is what Jobs made it. He illegally dominated a market, and hindered a generation of technology using everything from collusion to many other shady business practices. He has emails from him detailing this collusion.your bitterness and despise from reality. What is your disgust is not foreign to business and is why I never really ventured into the realm personally. I think it is sad that many of our success come from such people and/or situations but that again is reality and we have somehow take the good from it and keep moving forward.
I want to see that movie, but I fear from the commercials it's just going to be about the kid less about all the other stuff that happened after he came back to Apple.It's going to be immersion breaking watching Fassbender play Jobs. There's no way Jobs' cock is as big as Fassbender trouser-trunk.
Eh, probably not. Forced better marketing? Most likely.Buttmad Jobs forced everyone to make better mobile devices. Go sell you Android and buy an HTC running Windows Mobile and use that from now on.
Enjoy
Marketing built the iPhone? I'm confused.Eh, probably not. Forced better marketing? Most likely.
Sounds like the music industry of the 80s and 90s to me.What you get now is the top50 charts (whatever the count is in your part of the world) is basically now decided by 12 year old kids!!