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Terminator Genisys (2015)
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Lanx
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I couldn't find one scene that made any sense, and terminator moved from a frightening killing machine to a clown...wtf?
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except that wasn't the same "uncle bob" t800 that john knew... so why? but who cares, heres the old deleted scene, it's at the end.
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When you look into what James Cameron was doing with that scene, and what followed. It goes further to show how badly the makers of the reboot messed up.
In the director's cut of T2, the first awkward smile was just that, a first awkward attempt. John Conner says something along the lines of keep practicing. Which ties into one of the main plot-lines that was cut from the theatrical release, that they change the chip in the Terminator's head to learning mode. And so then further into T2 Arnold does smile a few more times, the Terminator is actually mimicking young John in the way he would smile. Curling the side of the mouth up, in a half smile, cheeky way. James Cameron does have all his shit sorted out.
And later again, more natural
So when the first attempt at a smile was cut from the film (and also the chip mode switching scene) we do still see Terminator smile a few times, which to the audience still works okay as it just is the Terminator getting closer with John, fitting in better, without the facts etc behind it being told directly to the audience.
SO then the makers of the reboot ruin it by having him do the original awkward dry smile again, despite this new ( or is it old ) Terminator having spent decades fitting in around humans.
Yeah!
In the director's cut of T2, the first awkward smile was just that, a first awkward attempt. John Conner says something along the lines of keep practicing. Which ties into one of the main plot-lines that was cut from the theatrical release, that they change the chip in the Terminator's head to learning mode. And so then further into T2 Arnold does smile a few more times, the Terminator is actually mimicking young John in the way he would smile. Curling the side of the mouth up, in a half smile, cheeky way. James Cameron does have all his shit sorted out.
And later again, more natural
So when the first attempt at a smile was cut from the film (and also the chip mode switching scene) we do still see Terminator smile a few times, which to the audience still works okay as it just is the Terminator getting closer with John, fitting in better, without the facts etc behind it being told directly to the audience.
SO then the makers of the reboot ruin it by having him do the original awkward dry smile again, despite this new ( or is it old ) Terminator having spent decades fitting in around humans.
Yeah!
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I had forgotten the chip switching scene. They filmed that by having the real Arnold on one side of a two way mirror with Linda Hamiltons twin sister, then on the other side it was Linda and a fake Arnold head that she is cutting open to expose the chip. Incredibly slick scene that nowadays would all be done with CGI and not look nearly as good as it did in 1991.
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actually isn't this why "pops" (emilia clark terminator) doesn't learn anything, b/c the deleted chip scene was them turning on learning mode.(for uncle bob) Unless theres also some deleted scene of "pops" telling solely emilia clark how to turn on the chip.When you look into what James Cameron was doing with that scene, and what followed. It goes further to show how badly the makers of the reboot messed up.
In the director's cut of T2, the first awkward smile was just that, a first awkward attempt. John Conner says something along the lines of keep practicing. Which ties into one of the main plot-lines that was cut from the theatrical release, that they change the chip in the Terminator's head to learning mode. And so then further into T2 Arnold does smile a few more times, the Terminator is actually mimicking young John in the way he would smile. Curling the side of the mouth up, in a half smile, cheeky way. James Cameron does have all his shit sorted out.
And later again, more natural
(and also the chip mode switching scene)
Terminator having spent decades fitting in around humans.
Yeah!
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Which makes sense, but then I think raises a question, what counts as Canon?
With the original Theatrical release, when they cut the chip switching scene it was replaced with some ADR from Arnold saying
"My CPU is a neural-net processor; a learning computer. The more contact I have with humans, the more I learn." <-I just grabbed this from IMDB so it is verbatim.
So in effect making them permanently in a learning mode. Explaining some of his changes during the film.
That was in the original theatrical release, but then we all know the director's cut . . . so which one counts as being Canon??
With the original Theatrical release, when they cut the chip switching scene it was replaced with some ADR from Arnold saying
"My CPU is a neural-net processor; a learning computer. The more contact I have with humans, the more I learn." <-I just grabbed this from IMDB so it is verbatim.
So in effect making them permanently in a learning mode. Explaining some of his changes during the film.
That was in the original theatrical release, but then we all know the director's cut . . . so which one counts as being Canon??
You guys have officially discussed a terminator smiling more than the writers of both movies combined.
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Finally saw this. Jesus fuck ROFL. Nothing in this movie made sense.
I take time travel shit with a grain of salt because most time travel films are retarded. Glaring potholes and things that you just have to ignore to enjoy. Which I can do here, but still, damn...
Nostalgia factor and Ol'Arnie make it good for me though. I liked it for what it is.
Edit: I would have loved this 1000x more if T-1000 was played by Ken Jeong. God that would have been hysterical.
I take time travel shit with a grain of salt because most time travel films are retarded. Glaring potholes and things that you just have to ignore to enjoy. Which I can do here, but still, damn...
Nostalgia factor and Ol'Arnie make it good for me though. I liked it for what it is.
Edit: I would have loved this 1000x more if T-1000 was played by Ken Jeong. God that would have been hysterical.
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Hell is watching the Bad Boys "joke" on a loop for the rest of your life. Fuck this movie to death.
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Sfdebris did bit on the origin, casting and filming of the original Terminator. After watching it I'm even less inclined to want to watch the reboot.
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