iannis
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True, but with a dense fuel it takes less raw mass to reach it. The whole rocket problem thing.
Probably isn't practical. If it were, they'd be doing it.
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Probably isn't practical. If it were, they'd be doing it.
Gavinmad
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Whose idea? Chuk is just vomiting random nonsense.
You seem to be caught somewhere between delta V and specific impulse.
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gavin is just doing his "you're an idiot" shtick. if he had said what i said and i said a fuel satellite was a space bomb and that its impossible for a small rocket ship to leave the low gravity atmosphere of Mars, his recycled insults would still be the same.
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Gavinmad
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pharmakos
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Cybsled
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You can potentially just manufacture the fuel on Mars.
Elon Musk wants to collect fuel on Mars to send spaceships back to Earth
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fanaskin
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It would be much easier if they didn't plan on coming back, just have a continious mission to add more people and infrastructure for like 30 years, it's gonna take forever to buildup bases there.
you can come back when you build the systems it would take to make the return trip
you can come back when you build the systems it would take to make the return trip
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I can't believe you didn't enjoy getting to hear two literal rocket scientists debating space travel.
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Yall thinking about this mars back and forth wrong.
Antigrav.
You transmute (insert special element here) into a higher element creating gravity waves and plasma. Think about how gravity waves affect things. Now consider what happens when you generate your own and keep them contained. The plasma can power your electrical systems, providing movement, thrust, whatever. The gravity waves keep you aloft in earths atmosphere with barely any power use.
That's not even getting into the previous generation of electromagnetic antigrav from the early 80s which you can see in small demos in idiots basements all over youtube.
Antigrav.
You transmute (insert special element here) into a higher element creating gravity waves and plasma. Think about how gravity waves affect things. Now consider what happens when you generate your own and keep them contained. The plasma can power your electrical systems, providing movement, thrust, whatever. The gravity waves keep you aloft in earths atmosphere with barely any power use.
That's not even getting into the previous generation of electromagnetic antigrav from the early 80s which you can see in small demos in idiots basements all over youtube.
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Oldbased
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They flat out ignored my supreme space force facts in that. I hadn't even got to the large wooden badger and city sized slingshots part yet.
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Oldbased
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So, if the average person is 68,000 calories of energy and fence sitters are on average 30% over that figure then we end up with 88,400 calories of energy per person.
Now burning fat people is not 100% efficient so let's go with 50% meaning at thrust we have 44,200 calories. Now a gallon of gas is roughly 31 million calories of energy meaning we need many fence sitters to generate thrust at all.
44,200 calories is roughly 51.4 kilowatt hours of power so we cannot use fence sitters as a fuel source of thrust. We can however power the module itself with 51.4 Kh of energy meaning that fence sitter becomes the crappy music player, coffee maker and toilet flusher of the space capsule.
As for thrust, we are looking into possibly installing fart grabbing wall dragons as a option.
Now burning fat people is not 100% efficient so let's go with 50% meaning at thrust we have 44,200 calories. Now a gallon of gas is roughly 31 million calories of energy meaning we need many fence sitters to generate thrust at all.
44,200 calories is roughly 51.4 kilowatt hours of power so we cannot use fence sitters as a fuel source of thrust. We can however power the module itself with 51.4 Kh of energy meaning that fence sitter becomes the crappy music player, coffee maker and toilet flusher of the space capsule.
As for thrust, we are looking into possibly installing fart grabbing wall dragons as a option.
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iannis
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Gravity waves were just observationally confirmed like... last year though, right? And plasma is extremely difficult to manipulate (hence the dream of fusion being, for now, pipe).
I'm not saying you're wrong! But isn't that basically theoretical? Slightly less theoretical than the EM Drive... but on that order. You're talking about Fusion AND the manipulation of the graviton in conjunction.
If we get fusion though we don't have to worry about squat. A gallon of dirty water would be enough energy to get you into orbit. Well it depends on how big the fusion apparatus is obviously, but it's of that magnitude. Solidfuel chemical rockets are caveman tier at that point.
And the fusion apparatuses probably won't be -that- big. They can fit in normal little office buildings at least. You're not looking at some artifact as big as a hardon collider.
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Mudcrush Durtfeet
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How do you know that? No one has yet made something using nuclear fusion for power generation that is actually usable. Such a thing seems to be decades away, if not longer. :-(
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