The Big Bad Console Thread - Sway your Station with an Xboner !

Lenas_sl said:

Pay no mind. In a year's time Sean will still have both consoles and he will once again be racking up achievements on the 720 while his PS4 seldom gets used for whatever anime game he wants to play at the time.

And don't act like you don't give a shit about Windows 8 games Sean, you even maxed out achievements on Minesweeper, Mahjong and Solitaire.

Click to expand...

I was bored.

And if the current rumors are true, why in god's name would I play X720 versions of games over the PS4 version? It looks like an inferior machine. Not to mention the sharing and streaming stuff the PS4 will have.

There's pretty much no way I'm buying X720 unless Microsoft puts out with some real exclusive support.

I don't play primarily on my X360 because I'm a Microsoft fanboy, I do it because third party games are either better or equal and it has a better controller for now. It's going to be the reverse come the next generation from the looks of it and if that's the case then there's no reason to own a X720.

Just get PC games like arealgamer would.

Meh, was funnier in my head

People who are primarily PC gamers to begin with aren't going to give a fuck that they could also play their games on a X720. People who are console gamers primarily and rarely use their PCs (and probably don't have a worthwhile gaming PC to begin with) aren't all going to magically go out and buy Windows 8 just to also play their games on it which they weren't doing in the first place.

If this is true, which itprobably isn't, it's going to have a pretty minor effect. It's not going to magically make people want to invest in Windows 8, people just don't give a fuck about the OS and this would not change that (and won't).

We should take a poll on the board. How many PC gamers here would run out, upgrade to Windows 8, buy a X720, and buy games through the Windows App store (which can only be run through Metro) so you could use your copy on both instead of just using Steam?

Note that games from the Windows App store in Win8 can only be run through their shitty Metro interface. They cannot be run from the desktop nor do they give you Steam keys.

Yeah, I'm guessing less than 1% of you would actually forgo Steam for that.

I'm primarily a PC gamer; I do not give a fuck about running my games through any other platform. I own a 360, Wii, PS3 as well as all handhelds (except the Vita, because I am fucking DISGUSTED there is no way to get a digital form of the games I already paid for on the PSP) solely for the exclusives. In the past few years I can only think of maybe a few games I did not buy on PC that were not exclusives, and all of them I later bought GOTY versions of on PC later. (Things like Arkham Asylum that had PS3 exclusives to let you play as joker in challenge maps and the bones challenge map which was fun as shit.)

I play things on PC because in general I find them to look better and have less issues. (Depending, this is up for debate I am sure, and there are notable exceptions, like dark souls which was ported and had a relatively bad port to PC, etc. It should be noted I own a CE of both Demon's Souls and Dark Souls for the PS3.)

I am relatively fucking annoyed anytime shit has to run through something else. Arkham City gave me a HELL of a fucking time; in fact that game is incorrectly tied to a fake gamertag through windows live on my PC instead of to my xbox gamertag, because it WEIRDLY picked up my secondary email account and assigned it a random gamertag and fuck-if-give-a-shit-because-i-bought-the-goty-on-steam-later.

Origin is a POS, and gives more trouble than anything else.

Steam is the only thing I can rely on because it's hassle free, puts everything at my fingertips, and makes it easy. Like xbox dashboard USED to be, before they started tying PC games to that shit.

And as someone who worked in the industry a long time (both retail and otherwise) I can tell you the majority of console owners own a console because it's extraordinarily cheaper to run the same game than it is on a PC. To run skyrim and have it look beautiful required a pretty decent setup - I upgrade my rig regularly and it's usually 1.5k+, more or less depending on what I am going for or how long I've waited. There are a lot of people who actually say they wouldn't mind playing things on the PC and might even prefer it, but 299.99 versus fucking 1.5k is a no brainer.

Hell, I don't even buy shit from Amazon 1/2 the time unless they have steam keys. 2K games are notorious for never correctly registering to a steam account and I raged. I also get some what excited when I buy games and they automatically load through steam, even as a retail copy. (Notable games have been Skyrim, Dishonored, etc.)

Everyone wants to compete with steam, but this is the crux of your fucking issue: 1) You're not as good or as hassle free as steam 2) You try to rope me in to using shit exclusively for a variety of reasons, some of which I'm sure I'm ignorant of 3) We'll still have issues to things that will only register through steam, or will try to register as both, or yada fucking yada.

I have keys that will register to both Origin and Steam; I have keys that only register to one. It is a fucking mess. PC usage has relatively been worry-free, as long as I am not using that heathen of a machine called the mac. Steam is great, no fucking way am I getting anything to run shit through the 720. If I want a console experience or something akin to it, I use an xbox controller on my PC. Fuck this metro crap, the xbox live on PC is already an atrocity. YOU'RE KILLING ME SMALLS.

Sean_sl said:

We should take a poll on the board. How many PC gamers here would run out, upgrade to Windows 8, buy a X720, and buy games through the Windows App store (which can only be run through Metro) so you could use your copy on both instead of just using Steam?

Note that games from the Windows App store in Win8 can only be run through their shitty Metro interface. They cannot be run from the desktop nor do they give you Steam keys.

Yeah, I'm guessing less than 1% of you would actually forgo Steam for that.

Click to expand...

Google win 8.1. The word on the street is the Start button is coming back, and running metro apps from the desktop too. Suck on that
Also: why is the genius banned? Was telling us stories about his super cat, Amod.

Yeah, that's still not going to make anyone choose it over Steam.

Sean_sl said:

Yeah, that's still not going to make anyone choose it over Steam.

Click to expand...

Monopoly is never a good thing for the consumer. Why not embrace what could potentially stir the games market a little? I love steam, but I hate paying full price for old games. If this can bring an ounce of competition I welcome it. Also I kind of dig the cross platform possibilities albeit Microsoft fucked up GWL as a distribution platform, initially at least.

Izo_sl said:

Monopoly is never a good thing for the consumer. Why not embrace what could potentially stir the games market a little? I love steam, but I hate paying full price for old games. If this can bring an ounce of competition I welcome it. Also I kind of dig the cross platform possibilities albeit Microsoft fucked up GWL as a distribution platform, initially at least.

Click to expand...

Steam's had a lot of competition as of late with GMG and Amazon sales. Thinking that Microsoft will have competitive pricing is also pretty silly with how bad their big sales have turned out.

This whole thing is dumb anyways and not ever going to happen for big games. The initial post this came from, which has no credibility, pretty much mentioned it for Indie games and that's the only possible multiplatform license that would come from it. Thinking that you're going to get a double license for something like Assassin's Creed, Final Fantasy, or Batman ishilarious.

a_skeleton_03_sl said:

They don't have to choose it over Steam.

You aren't getting a double license. You are getting one license. The difference though is that all of your games are compatible with anywhere the PC store is available whether that be console or PC. IF that app store portion is true it's a game changer.

Click to expand...

And that's not going to happen with AAA games regardless of if it's true or not, only small titles. So the whole argument is moot and there's no game changer what so ever.

Yes, they would have to choose it over buying it through Steam and having it in their Steam Library, instead it will be in their Windows App Store library.

You're also making a terrible assumption that PC gamers, who don't normally buy consoles or only buy console exclusives, are all going to run out and buy a X720andWindows 8justtake advantage of this.

They aren't. Doubly so if it's only going to be for small titles and indie games. This isnota game changer for them. It will never be a game changer for them. This is even more true with Microsoft's complete lack of third party exclusives for years now and their terribly anemic first party stable. They'd have to have a reason to buy a X720 in the first place and this isn't enough of one (even if it gave you AAA licenses) to give anyone but an extremely small minority a reason to buy it.

Even in the absolute best case scenario of hassle free access to AAA properties on multiple platforms (which is really far fetched,ifit's true at all and it probably isn't) it's not going to push sales unless Microsoft massively ups their ability to put out exclusive content to make the system worth buying foranyonein the first place. Games are what sell systems, not something like this.

Arguing over something from some idiotic source with no credibility what so ever is also fucking dumb and we should all feel bad for doing it.

a_skeleton_03_sl said:

Games sell systems, I agree. This is "two" games for the price of one. This is more games because the entry barrier for developers is non existant.

Let's suppose it's not AAA titles and it's just XBLA games. Are you saying nobody would do that? After you already proved that people will play and get every single achievement on their Windows 8 games just to do it (you).

Click to expand...

But it's not just two games for the price of one, you have to also convince them tobuy the system. It would not be a game changer that would massively sell X720s (especially so if it was just small titles). The only way that this would have any significant effect on sales would be if Microsoft also came out with a ton of exclusive IPs for the system that make it worth buying. If Microsoft keeps up its track record of the past half of the X360's life and has no third party exclusive support and banks completely on just Halo, Forza, and Gears then none of this matters in the least.

If Microsoft had all their ducks in the row would this boost sales? Yes, it would, but they do not have their ducks in a row. Their ducks are all the fuck over the place and some have gotten ran over by some douchebag on a scooter.

And if it's just a feature for small titles then it's really insignificant, you can't sell a system onjustthose.

It's not a "game changer." Being able to play Mahjong on both your laptop and your X720 isn't going to make someone go out and drop $500 on one.

Their parents will tell them to fuck off and just use their laptop or tablet for it.