The Elder Scrolls Online

Rescorla_sl said:

So instead of believing what you read about me catching Utnayan telling several lies (and other posters confirming it), do you believe him and think I work for Zenimax?

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Hey retard. Read my post again please.I believe what I see.Those first 17 levels were the worst 17 levels I've ever experienced in any MMORPG game. Worse than EQ1, EQ2, CoH, WoW, Warhammer, SWTOR, GW1, GW2... jesus. I've probably forgotten how many games I've played, let alone think of a game that's worse than TESO... WAIT! WAIT A GOD DAMNED MINUTE! I remember an MMO that was worse than ESO! YES! IT WAS VANGUARD IN BETA! I remember seeing horribly misplaced mobs like ESO has. Thank god... whew... Thinking of a game worse than ESO was making my brain shit itself.

This isn't about faith in a fucking video game that hasn't been released, Mr. Shit-for-brains. It's about knowing what quality is. It's about seeing what quality is. I'm not here to act fanatical about inner office drama or explaining why the game was designed like shit. I'm here to be fanatical about what a good game is. Guys like you and Blackwulf have no concept of what good game design is, nor do you appreciate it. I, on the other hand, appreciate it. I can list the games alone in the past year which are much better buys from all genres.

EQ1 is more fun than ESO is. Think about that for a moment. An MMO that's a over a decade stale is better than your brand new MMO. Hide behind your NDA all you want. It's my personal opinion that.... well that's just plain pathetic. Even a year after going back to it, I actually have fond contemporary memories of the zones and content I played in god damned NORRATH of all places. Meanwhile, the memories I have of TESO are three weekends of piss-poor content that got WORSE every following weekend. More bugs, More zone chat complaining. Longer loading times. Trust me, I gave each class (yes, all four of them!) a good honest try. It's worth mentioning that the sorcerer was the most boring MMO class I've ever laid hands on.

Do you honestly believe for a mili-second that the content GETS BETTER as you get higher leveled? Since when in the history of all MMO does content GET BETTER as you get higher leveled? Other than the dungeon content in WoW, even the higher level zones of WoW got slightly more and more stale, and that's WoW we are talking about. You know, the game that was an earth-shattering financial success while being nothing sort of an epic victory in game design that shook the entire fuckng industry to its very core.

Go look at my steam profile and go see how many hours I've put into a very specific game recently. Take that number of hours and convert it to minutes (1 hour = 1 minute.) A grand majority of players WILL NOT play your trash basket of a game for longer than that amount of time. You can take that to the bank.Hell, you can even believe it.

You're trying too hard dude.

Utnayan_sl said:

While you protect your board's profits from the hand that feeds you. I know that too. So I'll keep posting and know you pretty much have to say this or start facing losing web hits or have some of your writing staff not get access to those same developers that cause this unethical development cycle to continue anyway for Junkies. Do everyone a favor and don't turn it into that for your own wallet. If developers give your writers access, fine. Don't let them hold it over your head because there is someone in their midsts posting the truth of what goes on behind these organizations and how the top is fairly corrupt to the nth degree.

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The fact that you even said anything like this makes you pretty clueless and just reinforces what everyone else is saying.

Utnayan_sl said:

The fact I had information to back me up in another thread but face banning if I posted it, because it would reflect poorly on your site and would scare off developers to speak to your "journalists" should reinforce everything I have ever said.

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You're like the Lumie for the video game section. At least he's one of the best LOL players in the world.

Draegan_sl said:

You're like the Lumie for the video game section. At least he's one of the best LOL players in the world.

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You're like the Tyen for the entire forum.

mkopec_sl said:

Bullshit why do you care if you get baned from a game you vehemently despise?

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Maybe he really is having fun in the closed beta but has to maintain his reputation as a frothing at the mouth hater of MMOs not designed like EQ1.

BTW I thought of another test for Utnayan to prove to us he is in the closed beta. I've made several posts in the closed beta forums on multiple topics. If he can come here and list the subject titles of those threads, I will apologize to him and admit he has the best inside info insight on the MMO industry of any MMO player in history.

Draegan_sl said:

You're trying too hard dude.

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What am I? A modern-day Furor? Oh that's rich. I'm nowhere close to being Furor. He said the exact same shit about how he spent a ridiculous amount of time playing EQ1 before moving onto WoW without giving it a second thought. Did you tell him then that he was trying too hard then? Probably not. Because his game became a resounding success and not a box-sale whore like the first Star Wars MMO.

There are two types of people that I know in real life related to ESO. Those who have played it and wouldn't go near it with a ten foot pole and those who haven't tried it and will buy it, because their friends asked them too. At least I can stand by what I say 4 months from now. Either way I'll be having a blast playing a real game while others mope about being boring as usual.

asfastasican_sl said:

What am I? A modern-day Furor? Oh that's rich. I'm nowhere close to being Furor. He said the exact same shit about how he spent a ridiculous amount of time playing EQ1 before moving onto WoW without giving it a second thought. Did you tell him then that he was trying too hard then? Probably not.Because his game became a resounding successand not a box-sale whore like the first Star Wars MMO.

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Which is exactly why there have been so many WoW clones and zero EQ1 clones. The raids that Furor helped create in WoW as well as the design of the rest of the game is one reason it was so popular. The fact that no company, not even SOE, developed a EQ1 clone should tell you something.

BTW to answer one of your earlier questions"Do you honestly believe for a mili-second that the content GETS BETTER as you get higher leveled? Since when in the history of all MMO does content GET BETTER as you get higher leveled?" the answer is an obvious "yes". Pretty much every MMO I have played most of the content is geared towards end game content for players at the level cap (ex. end game raiding, competitive PVP, elite/veteran dungeons).

Utnayan_sl said:

I'm talking about the forum at this point.

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OK if you're not worried about getting banned from the closed beta go ahead and send me a tell/mail in game.

Rescorla_sl said:

BTW to answer one of your earlier questions"Do you honestly believe for a mili-second that the content GETS BETTER as you get higher leveled? Since when in the history of all MMO does content GET BETTER as you get higher leveled?" the answer is an obvious "yes". Pretty much every MMO I have played most of the content is geared towards end game content for players at the level cap (ex. end game raiding, competitive PVP, elite/veteran dungeons).

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I've never seen polished endgame content at release in the last, let's say 8 years. A few months in things usually get better, but by then I (and a lot of others) am usually gone. Maybe things have changed and I have picked the wrong games. I don't play MMO's like I used to in the past because I don't have the time anymore, but I can't really come up with a recent title where I tought the endgame was really well done, let alone finished.

asfastasican_sl said:

What am I? A modern-day Furor? Oh that's rich. I'm nowhere close to being Furor.

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Did you just make up an entire conversation we had in your head where I compared you to Furor?

mkopec_sl said:

These games are never done. name one fucking game that released with a pllished and finished end game. Even the 1000lb gorilla, wow, was released unfinished. It sucks, but thats just the nature of these games.

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You got me there, I can't...

bwuceli_sl said:

I've never seen polished endgame content at release in the last, let's say 8 years. A few months in things usually get better, but by then I (and a lot of others) am usually gone. Maybe things have changed and I have picked the wrong games. I don't play MMO's like I used to in the past because I don't have the time anymore, but I can't really come up with a recent title where I tought the endgame was really well done, let alone finished.

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Now you're trying to change the argument. You asked if any MMO got better in higher levels and the answer is obviously Yes. Whether end game raiding is polished to the level of quality that you personally approve of is a different issue.