The Elder Scrolls Online

Rescorla_sl said:

PS. I'm working on the Fallout 4 team but do happen to know a lot of the developers working on TESO. A few of them lurk here and also get a chuckle when they see all the armchair devs thinking they have a clue about how to design a game.

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You are a bad person.

Abefroman_sl said:

You mean like when you kept arguing in beta that nobody was talking about the clunky combat an animations anymore because they pretty much fixed them? Or the time you said you never experienced delay with weapon switching?

There also was nothing wrong with the global AH for GW2. The problem was them not jumping on the Bot problem right away. You still see tons of Bots in WoW driving prices down without a globaL AH. Not only did ESO have a Bot problem. They also had a dupe problem. All of this with their shitty AH system. The only reason the bots left was because nobody was left to buy gold.

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Once again, there are two sides to the issue. Your problem as well as many others here is you are incapable of comprehending that different people can have different results/outcomes playing the same game. Different computers, different play styles, different connections speeds etc.

Take the weapon swap issue. I know it affected some people. Your problem is you can not accept the possibility that it did not affect me. I was telling you the truth, but you would rather label me a shill than acknowledge I was telling you the truth. BTW I think the reason it did not affect me was because I knew how to take advantage of animation cancelling as well as knowing not to spam click the same ability over and over again.

Bondurant_sl said:

You are a bad person.

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If people are going to be stupid enough to claim I work for ZOS, why can't I have some fun with them?

Let this be an indicator of the quality of work going into Fallout 4.

Utnayan_sl said:

/\/\ Like radiated water.

This is going to be epic. If you google "Fallout 4 Rescorla" he has already zoomed up to 4 on a google search.

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That's awesome. I can see all the zeroes on the bonus check already.

Vitality_sl said:

ESO doesn't have bots because no one cares about the game enough to bot it.

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Abefroman_sl said:

The choices in game design did actually stop the botting. That's because nobody wanted to play the fucking game anymore.

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Abefroman_sl said:

There also was nothing wrong with the global AH for GW2. The problem was them not jumping on the Bot problem right away. You still see tons of Bots in WoW driving prices down without a globaL AH. Not only did ESO have a Bot problem. They also had a dupe problem. All of this with their shitty AH system. The only reason the bots left was because nobody was left to buy gold.

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I know you two believe that stating your opinion as fact means you always get to be correct, but allow me the opportunity to pass on a tidbit of information to you that you may not be aware of since you haven't played the game in a while.

The guild trading kiosk system in TESO operates under a bidding system. Each guild puts in a bid for kiosks in specific locations spread out all across the various zones. In order to win a kiosk in one of the prime real estate locations, the winning bid is typically 250,000 gold or higher. This gives the guild one week of kiosk ownership at that location. If the numerous posts on the forums are actually telling the truth, one kiosk can sell on average over 25+ million gold worth of items per week. There are roughly 6-8 of these prime real estimate kiosks for all three factions. There are numerous other kiosks in less crowded regions that obviously do not process that many transactions.

Now that personally to me seems like a lot of transactions with a lot of gold exchanging hands between buyers and sellers but I could be wrong. I'm certain the two of you can come back with some reasonable explanation for why it isn't a positive sign.

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Edit: Thanks for the info my man. What kind of role are you filling for the Fallout 4 title?

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Rescorla_sl said:

I know you two believe that stating your opinion as fact means you always get to be correct, but allow me the opportunity to pass on a tidbit of information to you that you may not be aware of since you haven't played the game in a while.

The guild trading kiosk system in TESO operates under a bidding system. Each guild puts in a bid for kiosks in specific locations spread out all across the various zones. In order to win a kiosk in one of the prime real estate locations, the winning bid is typically 250,000 gold or higher. This gives the guild one week of kiosk ownership at that location. If the numerous posts on the forums are actually telling the truth, one kiosk can sell on average over 25+ million gold worth of items per week. There are roughly 6-8 of these prime real estimate kiosks for all three factions. There are numerous other kiosks in less crowded regions that obviously do not process that many transactions.

Now that personally to me seems like a lot of transactions with a lot of gold exchanging hands between buyers and sellers but I could be wrong. I'm certain the two of you can come back with some reasonable explanation for why it isn't a positive sign.

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The remedial obvious bots always are seen at the start of a game. After a time the more secure bots(payed ones) are left. There are still bots in ESO and they are still selling gold. The demand just isn't there as in other games because those design decisions didn't get rid of botting. It got rid of the playerbase.

Getting rid of bots would require actual effort and money spent by the people running the game. WoW with it's infinite resources still doesn't give much of a fuck to get rid of them besides the most obvious botters. You could get rid of probably 99 percent of botters if you wanted to in WoW if they would commit the resources. Give me a month and I could eliminate the botters in WoW with zero problems.

Abefroman_sl said:

Give me a month and I could eliminate the botters in WoW with zero problems.

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A man of your considerable programming talents should obviously be working on the Fallout 4 team. Send me your resume via PM and I will make sure it gets into the right hands.

Rescorla_sl said:

A man of your considerable programming talents should obviously be working on the Fallout 4 team. Send me your resume via PM and I will make sure it gets into the right hands.

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Has nothing to do with programming.

Tuco_sl said:

How?

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You simply flag accounts that meet certain criteria. Quests that are always skipped, do they always use 32bit client and click to move, are they inputing commands for 4 hours straight with no afk time. Many other things that could be learned by simply looking at the forums of the different bots out there. The money part is training people how to spot the bots and having them use the bots themselves and checking in on the flagged accounts. Tons of other things that you can spot easily if they cared enough to learn about the bots and watch how they behave.