The Expanse
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There are two different cuts for the first couple seasons as far as I can tell, one being a slimmed down version for broadcast times.
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Burns
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I was going to say the same.
I watched it once on Syfy and three times on Amazon. I was pretty sure it had been there every time, but then I scanned the Syfy episode at 6x speed, and it's not included. So yea, Amazon has the original UK cut, and Syfy had to edit for time.
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Quineloe
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unavailable outside the US, haha. They're asking for it.
And they actually cut that? It's such an important scene, it now makes no fucking sense to have him appear in Episode 2 in the scene in the bar with the Admiral
Book one down. I'm surprised how faithful they were with the show, and the changes they made were for the better. Show Amos and Miller were better due to the actors elevating them for sure.
It was really weird not having a perspective from Avasarla through the Eros stuff, and the differences between Dawes' versions was surprising.
It was really weird not having a perspective from Avasarla through the Eros stuff, and the differences between Dawes' versions was surprising.
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chaos
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I like Holden more as the series goes on. He actually matures in a way that's rare for fiction works. He doesn't change so much as gain nuance. I'd say you should check out the books. TBH I don't think the plot past Cibola Burn was predictable, and you really see the maturation of the crew. I didn't appreciate Naomi until Nemesis games and on, before that she was pretty loosely fleshed out and not really all that interesting.
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It's a hyper focus drug. It's enhancing their perception to read things like microreactions
At least that's what I remember
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Khane
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It heightens the interrogators senses. They finally say that little bit about it I think in late season 3 or season 4. I think the creators figured doing a close up of their pupils dilating right after they take it should be enough of a cue but people still questioned it so they gave a throwaway line about it eventually. And it really is a throwaway "why is the audience this dumb" type of line.
I mean... they completely ripped off limitless in the show with the close up of the pupils.
I mean... they completely ripped off limitless in the show with the close up of the pupils.
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Quineloe
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Isn't that how drugs just work?
Granted I may be the least knowledgable person on drugs in here. A few years back, I had a weekly RPG session to where I cycled and then showered there. One day, my friend told me I couldn't shower today for reasons she couldn't share. I just told em I'm gonna start stinking up the place, upon which I was allowed to shower, but I must tell *no one* what I'd see.
So there I was in the bathroom, standing next to a two foot tall potted plant I failed to recognize or even spot for over five minutes of carefully looking at everything in the room what it was I wasn't supposed to talk abvout.
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GuardianX
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For me it's the appearance of Alex and the hokey western drawl he's doing 24/7.
He was never on earth, in a meaningful way as far as I am aware, and a "western" accent would be something that wouldn't really exist in that time-line.
Aside from that, I enjoy his character, it just feels out of place thematically with the accent.
I can't even successfully relay my sadness in losing Ashford in the last episode, fuck me I loved his character. His character was so much more interesting than the shit tier Nagata, instead we get more shit tier back-story about her in the place of his sage-like guidance.
I really hated the aspect of this season of siding with the squatters even after they killed people.
Bitch they KILLED PEOPLE, this wasn't a "Oops you ran out of fuel and now you can't leave but no one died!" it's straight up 23 people dead and no one held accountable because of feels. They wanted me to side with the lady and her family but no, bitch you killed 23 people because of your shit. The "EVIL CORPORATE DUDE" was nearly completely right. He was only killing people who killed his people and only went off the rails a BIT when no one was taking him seriously and had to take shit into his own hands when shit was hitting the fan.
Overall...I kinda hope this isn't a vision of the future of the crew ultimately becoming space SJW's.
I really hated the aspect of this season of siding with the squatters even after they killed people.
Bitch they KILLED PEOPLE, this wasn't a "Oops you ran out of fuel and now you can't leave but no one died!" it's straight up 23 people dead and no one held accountable because of feels. They wanted me to side with the lady and her family but no, bitch you killed 23 people because of your shit. The "EVIL CORPORATE DUDE" was nearly completely right. He was only killing people who killed his people and only went off the rails a BIT when no one was taking him seriously and had to take shit into his own hands when shit was hitting the fan.
Overall...I kinda hope this isn't a vision of the future of the crew ultimately becoming space SJW's.
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Actually it's pretty established there's a whole valley on Mars where that accent is widespread.
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Yup off as it seems that is another sign of how much attention to the books they pay.
GuardianX
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Okay, I agree with the sentiment that attention to detail is nice, still strikes me as odd since the manner of speaking in't an entire country but more a caricature of a locale that possibly wouldn't even exist in their time line due to the planet flooding.
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Burns
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I guess I have lived in Texas too long, because I hardly find it noticeable. On the other hand, the scar/wrinkle on his chin makes it look like his beard is fake, and it bothers me, slightly.
As for season 4, I also had little sympathy for the Belters that killed the Earthers, but this is a land rush and a new age of discovery; not a squatter situation. No one can just claim rights to the 1000s of systems that all just opened up. The first ones to land, get to plant the flag and then they have to defend it; that is how new land discoveries have worked since the beginning of time. The complexities of the situation is what the whole season is about. If the Belters were just there, and the Earthers landed and said this is mine, by order of some earth court, there isn't much grey area.
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Yeah I just finished the first book as well and was also surprised how well the show adapted the material. In quite a few ways I think they improved it, especially in regards to adding more tension/personal conflict throughout...one example being how rough things started out with the crew at the start of the show. Even though I quite liked show version of Miller, I think getting his POV in book makes him even better. He's certainly a sad sack on the show, but the book really exposes how broken he was. Oh one funny thing was how much of a playboy Holden was on the Cant in the book.
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Khane
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The authors deciding that Martians have earthen, region specific accents hundreds of years after leaving earth is real fucking stupid. It detracts from the story. "No place is one place! Except every place has accents from one place... a place called earth! A place everyone but "earthers" hate!!!"
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Cybsled
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That's how accents work, though. People with accents from one place move to a new place, if there is enough density of the accent then usually it will stick or become a mix and thus a regional accent. There is a theory that the Southern and Boston accents are similar to the old British accents during colonial times that essentially came over, but the British accents later changed during the 19th century, but the US side kept them in those regions
Food is the same way. A lot of people don't realize that most Cajun food in Louisiana region is basically old French recipes from a time when French cuisine was very different than what we associate with modern French food. It's sort of like a time capsule.
Food is the same way. A lot of people don't realize that most Cajun food in Louisiana region is basically old French recipes from a time when French cuisine was very different than what we associate with modern French food. It's sort of like a time capsule.
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I found the forced empathy for belters on the new planet pretty empty. Beltere are established as extremists, them doing an extreme activity was practically guaranteed. I did however feel for the woman - she had a line she didnt want to cross but they were ok crossing. She wanted to throw in the towel but couldn't.
Khane
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The belters I kind of get. It was an amalgamation of accents like you're describing which makes sense because they have basically sectioned themselves even within the belt. But pretty much the only 2 martians with an accent were Alex (Southern American) and Bobbie (New Zealand).