Yeah, it'll be less annoying once they can all be watched at home however you'd like to, but they could have easily wrapped up Smaug in 2. Apparently the extensive scene with the Dwarves and Smaug bumbling around Erebor was very last-minute and was shot with little to no storyboarding or script. Jackson literally waved a camera around and Weta inserted the dragon and random scenes of Dwarves doing things, which makes the final rendition pretty impressive despite the ridiculousness of the whole thing.
The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies (2014)
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Are there fan edits of everything yet? I mean honestly the hobbit movies (at least 1 and 2) would be mounds better if the rabbit chase, goblin tunnel ride and barrel scenes where cut down- and really there would not be much to QQ about as we knew there would be changes in the story/flow like LOTR... In the lord of the rings you kinda had to cut down the timeline and how long everything was... I figured they could have kept that in the hobbit and try and show how long the journey was- mostly this happened in the elf jail...but I do agree not many movie goes would have liked watching Bilbo wonder around the halls for a few days etc.
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It's just fucking stupid and not part of the books.
Probably a leftover for when film 2/3 was going to be the adventures of young Aragorn tracking down Gollum outside Mordor for Gandalf to see what he knows about rings (which is in the LotR appendix).
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They would likely have met when Aragorn took Gollum to the elves of Mirkwood after he captured him for Gandalf.
A lot of people knew Aragorn even if they didn't know the significance of who he was because he used a different name in his earlier travels. The guy got around. He served some time in the army of Rohan and he served Denethor's father when he was Steward of Gondor (which was why Denethor didn't like him; he suspected who he was and saw it as grooming him for the throne).
It's not "just fucking stupid" for any of those reasons.
Again, he was well into adulthood at the time, he had already been raised in Rivendell by elves, and he was a pretty exclusive member of a nearly extinct race. Thranduil knowing who he was made perfect sense and fit just fine.
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It's been a few years since ive last read the books but isnt he like best friends with Thranduil although he chose to get education in Rivendell and would regulary go hunting with Legolas/Thranduil till the latter decides he gets too old for that shit?
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Joda: "Hey Obi-Wan, I know this great kid called young Han Solo you should go meet him he may be important some day in our thousand year struggle with the Sith"
~20 years later~
Obi-Wan "Hello, I'm Ben Kenobi"
I don't care how possible it is, the very concept is just stupid and not needed. There is no reference to this ever actually happening, in fact I just looked it up and Aragorn actually went to the wood elf kingdom as a ranger, he wasn't tracked down and trained by Legolas wtf.
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I finally finished my rewatching of the EE three LOTR movies. I now take offense with anyone who complains of the multiple endings for the ROTK. They just completed the most epic quest ever and they had a few loose ends to tie up. It was great.
It would have been fantastic to see the scouring of the shire on film, as the last 100 pages of ROTK book was f-ing fantastic. But I can see why (yet another build up to climax and then another resolution, etc.) ... Also, it's crazy how the real LOTR stuff in the movies is all great, and the shit he added in (the hours of extra elf shit with Arwen "I saw death." "But you also saw life!" was so terrible and not needed. A fan edit would be great if it cut out all the added in and useless shit with Elrond and Arwen.
I had also read that the years had not been kind to LOTR's CGI. There's only a few things that bugged me. One is the infamous scene where Legolas back grabs and flips up on the horse in the TTT when they are attacked on the way to Helms Deep. The other one that really bothered me was when Pippin dedicates himself to serve Denethor, there's a terrible greenscreen scene where he starts to walk forward and Gandalf moves to the side. It was done terribly. There's a couple other green screen scenes there were done poorly too, but that one was the only one worth mentioning.
I'm drunk. I'm sorry for how retarded this sounds. I promise I don't have down syndrome.
It would have been fantastic to see the scouring of the shire on film, as the last 100 pages of ROTK book was f-ing fantastic. But I can see why (yet another build up to climax and then another resolution, etc.) ... Also, it's crazy how the real LOTR stuff in the movies is all great, and the shit he added in (the hours of extra elf shit with Arwen "I saw death." "But you also saw life!" was so terrible and not needed. A fan edit would be great if it cut out all the added in and useless shit with Elrond and Arwen.
I had also read that the years had not been kind to LOTR's CGI. There's only a few things that bugged me. One is the infamous scene where Legolas back grabs and flips up on the horse in the TTT when they are attacked on the way to Helms Deep. The other one that really bothered me was when Pippin dedicates himself to serve Denethor, there's a terrible greenscreen scene where he starts to walk forward and Gandalf moves to the side. It was done terribly. There's a couple other green screen scenes there were done poorly too, but that one was the only one worth mentioning.
I'm drunk. I'm sorry for how retarded this sounds. I promise I don't have down syndrome.
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They needed something to explain how Aragorn ends up with Anduril, since I believe in the books they reforge it when the fellowship is in Rivendell. Maybe before then, but either way he definitely has it after they leave Rivendell. I didn't mind the shit where Elrond is trying to send Arwen to the grey havens, it was only like 5 minutes of content, not 'hours of extra elf shit'.
Of course it's not needed, but stupid? Nah. Drawing comparisons between that and Yoda mentioning Han Solo to a young Obi-Wan, however, is. Thranduil would have known of - if not outright known - Aragorn. His lineage was of extreme importance to the "elders" of Middle Earth. Han Solo didn't mean shit to anyone until he helped to blow up the Death Star.
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No, he and his mother took refuge in Rivendell after the death of this father, and Elrond fostered/raised on him. Aragorn was actually the descendant of Elrond's twin brother Elros, (who chose to be human, a choice afforded to him as a half-Elf, while Elrond chose Elfen life).
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ugh watching this shit right now, so tedious. every 5 minutes some new creature or location pops up and all you can think is "why the fuck is this story getting more complicated!?!?" so glad i didn't pay money to see this in theaters. only an hour in and i needed to get away and take a break.
dvd screener is pretty meh quality, its watchable but not really great. if you are a visual purist i'd probably wait for the super duper extended edition with extra CGI, since i can't see anyone wanting to see this crapfest more than once.
dvd screener is pretty meh quality, its watchable but not really great. if you are a visual purist i'd probably wait for the super duper extended edition with extra CGI, since i can't see anyone wanting to see this crapfest more than once.
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In the books he leaves Rivendell w/o it. Arwen convinces Elrond to reforge it and her brothers end up delivering it to him just before he decides to go and get dat ghosts (to buttfuck the corsairs later).
No, it's re-forged while they are all in Rivendell and he leaves there with it. Aragorn not getting the sword until before he sets out for the dead army and in dramatic fashion was entirely a movie invention.
In the book it was like, "Hey, your sword's done." "K, thx."
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Indeed, he does not use it- I believe there is some internal or external dialog about why- mostly still his confliction with being all like "I am the king bitches" he finally is like "okay ill be king, ghost sword!" and everyone knew that only the elves could reforge the sword- and they would not give it to just anyone but the true king.
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I'm going to fall on the side of being ok with the Aragorn mentioning. Like others said, he's a pretty important piece to the hope and potential outcome to middle earth. I think it was pretty evident when the fellowship would interact with people and they would say something like "they had heard about this ranger from the north..." or how they would not bow to him. People had been festering about Aragorn existence and his right to the thrown for quite awhile. Legolas also was very defensive of Aragon in FotR when they met with Elrond. He even told them they owed him their allegiance and their life.
I was really on the fence when I first saw it as well but when I went back and watched them over Christmas, it made more sense to me. However, it wouldn't have mattered if Legolas would not have been in the movie... you know, like he wasn't in the book.
I was really on the fence when I first saw it as well but when I went back and watched them over Christmas, it made more sense to me. However, it wouldn't have mattered if Legolas would not have been in the movie... you know, like he wasn't in the book.
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