The Lord of the Rings
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Gavinmad
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I try not to join the dogpile on you when you say stupid things but god damn man there are limits. Whoever taught you that bullshit definition of protagonist is a fucking moron, and so are you if you keep insisting that it's accurate.
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Brahma
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This sounds wrong to me. The protagonist has always been the main character, lead, whatever. I've been reading/TVing/Movie---ing all wrong all these years!
As for enjoying the show. I think at this point, me reading the books and Sim 40 years ago, and not remembering the shit at all:
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pysek
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But when destroying your myths and soiling every legend you own is the actual point, why the hell would they do that??
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Gavinmad
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I'm pretty sure that Morfydd Clark is just as much of a problem as the terrible writing. The Dol Guldur scene in the Hobbit movies is is not particularly well written (seeing as how its completely made the fuck up and contrary to what we are told in the books) but Cate Blanchett had the gravitas to make the scene work. Morfydd Clark is just a petulant little child.
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Chris
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2 minutes in.
I've posted something very reasonable and well thought out that's a prominent part of storytelling.
You are nitpicking the ancient greek definition of a word I used. Fuck off. Call it whatever words you want, the meaning is the same.
Chris
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They are almost always the same person, hence why some of you are confused by what I am saying, occasionally they are not. See my Holmes/Watson example.
Rings of Power has a main character but no protagonist - in her storyline at least.
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Chris
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The story stuff was my best class too, I managed to quote Plato and Super Mario in the same essay.
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Khalan
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I haven't rewatched the hobbit movies since they came out so I mostly don't remember this, but you are probably right.
Furry
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Oof, rough day getting dunked on by Chris. Might be the first time he’s ever been right about something and you had to trip into his path at that moment. Don’t worry, you’ll probably be right next time.
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Blanchett also had the opportunity to endear herself to the audience in the LoTR films and the earlier Hobbit movie, so she generally earned that Dol Guldur scene, which helped give it some depth and context as well. Had she just popped up as the weird Sauron banishing swamp monster from the get-go, it wouldn't have worked at all. Morfydd Clark has essentially started off as the swamp monster, and without the Sauron banishing.
Chukzombi
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Cate Blanchett has nailed every role i have ever seen her play. thats not to say she is the best actress ever, but that she knows her limitations and plays to her strengths. this derpy chick from the few scenes i have seen is severely lacking in charisma and presence.
you dont get that shit your pants feeling from watching her act like you did with Blanchett's Galadriel.
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Xevy
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I don't think most people understand that an Elf may live hundreds, of thousands of years, and may mature at a different rate as a person. LIke she's been alive hundreds of years, but she's still in her rebellious teen phase. Just because she's fucking 378 or whatever doesn't mean she's a sage, wise granny. It's like animals that go from being altricial young at birth who can't even see to being fully developed adults a year later. But in reverse.
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I think most people understand that, but it doesn't excuse poor writing. Grogu in The Mandalorian is 70-80 years old or something but still childlike because of how long-lived his species is and that's fine. And as much as I may be in the minority here in largely liking this show, a thoroughly unlikable PROTAGONIST is a bad call.
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Chris
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Funny you should post that scene because it's the end of Galadriel's character arc.
She voluntarily goes into exile with her kin because she wants to rule and be her own person.
She literally lingers in Middle East for thousands of years after everyone else returns from exile because she wants to rule a realm of her own and eventually takes over Lorien when she gets one of the three elf rings.
In this scene she is offered ultimate power and chooses to reject it and return from exile to be a normal person again.
This is not the character in Rings of Power. She wants to avenge her brother because ??? She hates Sauron specifically because ??? She doesn't want to rule, she's a soldier? Where is her husband and daughter?
Would be funny if it's actually Galadriel's daughter and Cate Blanchett shows up eventually.
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Gavinmad
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Who the fuck are you talking to clown? Do you realize Chris claimed that Sherlock Holmes isn't the protagonist of his own fucking story and that that the deuteragonist Watson is actually the protagonist? The meaning of protagonist is very fucking simple and has nothing to do with that nonsense he spewed about "The main character is the fated person the story is about, the protagonist is a newcomer to the fantasy world who asks all the questions you are asking.". It literally just means the main character, just like deuteragonist means second most important character and I'm sure you can guess what tritagonist means.
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