The problem with proving conspiracies is the assumed level of proof and the quality of the proof that is needed. If I say that white replacement is not only happening but it's proven. Now my jumping off point for proof might be.
And then I start showing the positions the people in the weather underground now hold. I'm thinking I've shown they believe something, and now they are trying to manifest those goals. The cynic will simply say that isn't proof and of course they are right. The real problem is defining what constitutes proof.
Before Trump's election let's say I argued that there is an elite group of pedophiles that are being controlled via blackmail and they are working towards normalizing their sexuality so they aren't being controlled any more. Here we are years later I'm taking to the same guy. I bring up Epstein and his two court cases, his isle, Maxwell, the fight logs, the renaming of pedophilia to minor attracted person's. Testimony from victims, most of which have mental issues for obvious reasons.
And then ask them if they now agree that it's a problem. Since I never asked what constitutes proof the out is it's just a few powerful men and women not some vast conspiracy. It's why this stuff falls.