The Outer Worlds

I agree with most points around the world itself with lack of soul. It's like an MMORPG theme park horribly thought out with NPC's just standing there with no life or personality. This is something Bethesda has down, with behavioral AI that has NPC's on schedules tied to in game time. Sleeping, Working, Eating, Playing, Pathing, etc. Something like that would have been nice here. They also lack the depth of faction based systems and reward structure. None of the faction shit mattered. All it did was unock an ability to purchase consumables in an area/zone, and they were all the same items anyway. For example I get Faction A to the top, go to the vending machines, I can now purchase all the unlocked items, but if I go to another world/area zone, that faction has them locked down again but who cares - if I want to buy those I can just high tail it back to the faction I already max'd out because they have the exact same shit. There isn't a reason for me to do any of the other faction shit at all unless I want to see a side story play out.

There is a lack of variety for enemies, and obviously was only one boss battle and that was a boring ass typical fight with no substance.

Overall, and in the end, this damn near felt like an early access title with more of the game coming in two years.

Hopefully with the backing of MS, they realize this could be a very good baseline for a new IP, and they expand on this HEAVILY. More open world, more factions, actual reasons to care about those factions with a reward structure and negative impacts on how others in the game world view you, actual NPC behavior patterns, weather, day night cycles, something other than using unreal engine, and about 60,000 more POI's then the 10 per area they had which were all bread crumbed anyway.

But the main deal is now GAAS is now here, and we are going to continue to see more half assed projects because the main goal will be to get the game into people's hands and leverage DLC and on going MTX support to make the actual money. It used to be an Xbox or PS4 was the install base to target. Now, it's going to be using the game to target the market with DLC and MTX systems.

Sad man. ;(

Crone said:

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So I didn't agree with the dude in Amber Heights, so I attacked him, and basically took out the whole town. The other dude sounded less fanatical and more business minded. Did I mess anything important up by taking out all of Amber Heights.

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Haha.

Bandwagon said:

I'm glad there's more people with the same general complaints about this game. I'm afraid of turning into cynical old bastard, and I haven't seen much in this game that I like. Don't really hate anything about it, it just interests me about as much as FIFA.

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complaints are valid

The further I got the more I just wanted it done. You honestly experience everything this game has to offer within the first couple of hours, nothing new or interesting is ever introduced in any way shape manner or form. It's not a bad game, it's a good game, it's just one that ends up stewing in that good for so long that the whole things become mediocre within it's own boundaries. Nothing interesting or exciting ever happens but I can't say it was ever boring, just tedious. Weapons are boring, perks are boring which makes the phobia/determent system worthless especially since the game isn't big enough to get any mileage out of them.

It isn't what I wanted, it wasn't actiony enough to be a Mass Effect clone and was too contained to satisfy my Fallout desires.

Others might like this more than I did, I give it a 6.5/10. The first couple of hours are 8/10 but that luster wears off and nothing ever happens to renew it.

I am surprised that with this being a GamePass game and also from a Microsoft owned company that it does not have cross save support between Xbox and PC.

spronk said:

yeah thats the one thing that sucks for me, i'm playing on PC but i'm only like 2 hours in, i'd play a lot more with cross save if I could hop on my X whenever i feel like

feels weird that Crone is way, way further in a game than me lol

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Well, he won't be for long. I remember trying to keep up with you in Forza Horizons 4.

This is a good solid 7 out of 10 for me. You can tell that they must have run out of money and time late in the development cycle because the level of detail and originality of the quests and story drop-off markedly towards the end although there is some good branching from the key decision points in the main plot, having played through the game twice. It won't be an all-time great but if they build on this foundation and make the gameplay more dynamic they have what can be the basis of a really good series here. The world-building is a nice sweet spot between a fallout and a firefly feel. The biggest missing element in my mind other than the gameplay is freedom to just explore areas in a manner similar to what a fall out games brought to the table.when people talk about this game being soulless that's really the missing Gap to my mind. And also the perks are so lukewarm that the game played doesn't really change after the first hour which is a major problem. There is nothing to strive for in the game beyond the story and the level of Polish and detail kind of tapers off after about two-thirds of the way through the game. So basically they need a more expensive and open world setup and a more nuanced game system that allows for progression into builds the kind of keep the game fresh for future installments. But the basic foundation is there for something good down the road if they keep things going in the right direction. The question is if the next game in the series we'll have enough backing them to put in that kind of time which is difficult for an independent developer like obsidian in the modern game development environment.