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If that's the case still edible in a pinch, cook the shit out of them?
You'd probably be okay, but generally exposing yourself to unnecessary disease is an avoid wherever you can in a prepper situation. I'd stick to rice if you had it.
 
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My dad always told us we only got one match to start the camp fire. My go to was always dry pine needles as kindling but as an adult I learned to find fat wood which is pretty awesome if you can get it. Pine needles are still the shit but a chunk or two of fat wood can get you over the hump when the regular shit isn't working so well. I have meant to get better using flint and steel. I've gotten fires going with them but you really need some nice, dry kindling to get that to work. I bought a can of magnesium shavings as a cheat. Much easier than trying to shave it off those little square fire starters.



If you have styrofoam, you don't need diesel. I burned a few large chunks of styrofoam that my new TV came packed in out in my burning barrel and basically caused a minor ecological disaster. I had flames coming 10 feet out of the burning barrel and the cloud of black smoke practically made my house disappear even though I was only 50 yards away from it. It was pretty impressive. My neighbor drove by and I'm kind of surprised he didn't call the fire department.

Mixed with diesel you can throw it, shoot it, or other things since it's basically napalm and it sticks to whatever it hits, just like it does with people.
 
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Cracked open an approximately 18 year old bag of dried pinto beans, initially sealed in mylar bag with o2 absorbers, but they seem to have spoiled, beans seemed darker, some of them had mold on them, and a rancid odor coming out of it, alot of the beans did look fine, so in a pinch probably most of the bag was edible, my theory is that the ones with mold were causing the odor, so tossed it. 17 year old bag of jasmine rice dried, smelled and looked basically fine, sealed same way as the beans. My suspicion is that all the rice is going to be fine, though the beans probably all spoiled/molded at some level? I'll be opening more in the next few weeks will update.
I had some problems with appx 5 year old rice. They had insects. That's when I found you you're supposed to freeze that stuff before sealing it up. Maybe that would have killed whatever was on your beans. The 5 year old beans were fine when I ate them, but tough, so you need to cook them longer.
 

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Found this interesting...

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To me that chart says "You don't have most of this shit and you're going to be fucked like everyone else when society collapses".
 
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To me that chart says "You don't have most of this shit and you're going to be fucked like everyone else when society collapses".
Yes, but also there are levels to it. There's "ready for some bad things"... all the way up to "I'm off grid, wholly self sufficient, and building my own alternative society and militia". You can always strive to cover the points you can on the list, be as prepared as is possible for you, and know where the gaps in your plans are.
 
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Yes, but also there are levels to it. There's "ready for some bad things"... all the way up to "I'm off grid, wholly self sufficient, and building my own alternative society and militia". You can always strive to cover the points you can on the list, be as prepared as is possible for you, and know where the gaps in your plans are.
Corona should have showed everyone that even a little prepping can come in handy. Even being supplied for a couple of weeks can get you over most humps, and that doesn't really take any effort, just a little planning. Hopefully we'll never need to try fending off roving hordes, but minor natural disasters and disruptions happen all the time, relatively speaking.

It doesn't hurt to have thought through something like "if x happens, how many days until you have serious problems?"
-Stores are empty/deliveries are stopped
-Can't leave your property
-Communication is down
-Power/gas is down (winter and summer)
-Water is down
-House must be evacuated (with time to prepare)
-House must be evacuated (immediately)
 
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Corona should have showed everyone that even a little prepping can come in handy. Even being supplied for a couple of weeks can get you over most humps, and that doesn't really take any effort, just a little planning. Hopefully we'll never need to try fending off roving hordes, but minor natural disasters and disruptions happen all the time, relatively speaking.

It doesn't hurt to have thought through something like "if x happens, how many days until you have serious problems?"
-Stores are empty/deliveries are stopped
-Can't leave your property
-Communication is down
-Power/gas is down (winter and summer)
-Water is down
-House must be evacuated (with time to prepare)
-House must be evacuated (immediately)
One time prepping came in handy for me was when all the stores ran out of yeast. Surprising how many people don't know you can just collect yeast free from the air. Honestly, I think its just as important that a prepper understands how to maximize the supplies around them in the bounty of nature, as it is to stockpile things. Knowing how to produce basic necesseties like soap from scratch, or precisely what natural things around you are edible.

Turk's cap is a favorite example in texas. Most people don't know you can eat them and they're quite tasty.
 
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One time prepping came in handy for me was when all the stores ran out of yeast. Surprising how many people don't know you can just collect yeast free from the air. Honestly, I think its just as important that a prepper understands how to maximize the supplies around them in the bounty of nature, as it is to stockpile things. Knowing how to produce basic necesseties like soap from scratch, or precisely what natural things around you are edible.

Turk's cap is a favorite example in texas. Most people don't know you can eat them and they're quite tasty.
I think the ideal prep-movie-in-my-head scenario is, society collapses but I never notice. I mean, I guess ideally it collapses in a such a way as to leave the internet functional, but I suppose we can't have everything. (well, unless we download it...)
 

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I think the ideal prep-movie-in-my-head scenario is, society collapses but I never notice. I mean, I guess ideally it collapses in a such a way as to leave the internet functional, but I suppose we can't have everything. (well, unless we download it...)
If that's the collapse you want, I genuinely believe its the collapse we're living.
 

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If that's the collapse you want, I genuinely believe its the collapse we're living.
Huh, well, that's actually a pretty nice way to look at it... Although on second thought, maybe I should just ditch the internet early. It seems to enable quite a bit of noticing (no, not that kind...) ( (well, ok, sort of) )
 

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Living in a very isolated or very rual area makes you at least partly prepper. Also growing up in a hurricane area does it. The longest I've gone without power to the house was 7 days. I had a whole house generator but you can only run one so long full time which I did not do. It was just straight line winds of 70+ mph, lots of trees here adjacent to the national forest and timber company land. Lots of shit went down.

I've never got into prepping for long term issues. But I do know people that have to go to "a" store of some sort every other day because they don't keep anyhting extra on hand including food. Even where I am now in TX we ocassonally get remnants of hurricanes that the power will be out for a few days. I can't imagine living closer to the gulf and not being somewhat prepared.
 
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Yeah I think the way I live is just an inherent advantage in this kind of situation. I'm 40 miles from the nearest town, 200 miles from the nearest city of over 100k and 500 miles from the nearest city of over a million. I have a relationship with everyone who lives within 20 miles of me. We always have a good amount of canned food on hand and freezers full of meat. We have 800 gallons each of diesel and gasoline and 2500 gallons of propane, not to mention generators, tools, tractors, farm implements, guns, etc. Of course with my luck the bombs will go off the day before they come to refill the fuel tanks. We have multiple flowing springs and even solar powered wells on the place, so water would not be an issue. All the houses have wood stoves for heat.

I think if we were completely isolated and the power was out, even with no warning, it would be a month before things even started to get particularly uncomfortable. That said, much longer than that and things are going to start breaking that we don't have parts for, tires are going to get holes in them, the fuel is going to run out, prescription drugs are going to run out, etc. Pooling resources with neighbors would help and obviously there are a couple dozen chickens and hundreds of cattle around as well as wildlife so I'd like to think we could hold out a lot longer than that, but with considerable discomfort.

There are several empty grain bins on the ranch and a couple of them have a considerable amount of wheat in them. Some of it is 20+ years old and it's dusty and has had mice in it, but it looks perfect aside from that. Sometimes I've thought about just putting a semi load of rice in one of them and sealing it up as tightly as possible. That combined with a ready supply of meat would be food for a long time, but probably something else would take me out before we would eat nearly that much food.
 
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I've never got into prepping for long term issues. But I do know people that have to go to "a" store of some sort every other day because they don't keep anyhting extra on hand including food.
I know lots of people who consider it perfectly normal to just drop by the store literally every day to pick up food for dinner or whatever.

We can debate the cost benefit tradeoffs of adequate prep for real SHTF scenarios of months or years, but a hell of a lot of people are literally not prepared for one day.
 

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I know lots of people who consider it perfectly normal to just drop by the store literally every day to pick up food for dinner or whatever.

We can debate the cost benefit tradeoffs of adequate prep for real SHTF scenarios of months or years, but a hell of a lot of people are literally not prepared for one day.
Yeah and grocery stores aren't much better. It seems like a lot of food but for most of them they are set up for just in time delivery. What is on the shelves is all they have and without multiple semi-loads being delivered daily, they don't have food. Add to that the panic buying and/or looting that are going to happen in an apocalypse and you better hope 90% of the people are killed at the beginning or cities will be out of food in a week.
 

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I know lots of people who consider it perfectly normal to just drop by the store literally every day to pick up food for dinner or whatever.

We can debate the cost benefit tradeoffs of adequate prep for real SHTF scenarios of months or years, but a hell of a lot of people are literally not prepared for one day.
What's crazy to me is that the people who grocery shop daily are still in a much better position than the people that, apparently, go to restaurants for every single meal they eat.
 

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Living in a very isolated or very rual area makes you at least partly prepper. Also growing up in a hurricane area does it. The longest I've gone without power to the house was 7 days. I had a whole house generator but you can only run one so long full time which I did not do. It was just straight line winds of 70+ mph, lots of trees here adjacent to the national forest and timber company land. Lots of shit went down.

I've never got into prepping for long term issues. But I do know people that have to go to "a" store of some sort every other day because they don't keep anyhting extra on hand including food. Even where I am now in TX we ocassonally get remnants of hurricanes that the power will be out for a few days. I can't imagine living closer to the gulf and not being somewhat prepared.
I have 9 months food and treated water. Food is mostly freeze dried with a bunch of canned veg and fruits. Doesn't really take up much space at all, so why not. Also coffee that I rotate in and out because the little woman can't go without coffee. There's enough wood on my property that I don't have to worry about cooking fuel.

No point in going beyond 9 months, imo. If things are that bad, we are probably fucked anyway.
 

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What's crazy to me is that the people who grocery shop daily are still in a much better position than the people that, apparently, go to restaurants for every single meal they eat.
Regional groceries are alright. Meijer has good prices and a nice selection. Wal Mart has low prices but absolutely fuck going there.

Small town groceries are robbers. Some things double the price of Meijer...and most of them are owned by regionals.
 

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prescription drugs are going to run out, etc.
Controlled prescriptions are certainly a problem if you need anything essential that's hard to get any other way. We're not too reliant on pharma yet, but as we get older, I can see it coming.
 
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Controlled prescriptions are certainly a problem if you need anything essential that's hard to get any other way. We're not too reliant on pharma yet, but as we get older, I can see it coming.

Yeah, the only thing I take is for high blood pressure and it wouldn't be great to be without it but it wouldn't be life threatening in the short term at least. My step dad on the other hand, takes blood thinners because his heart is fucked and if he's off of them for more than a couple days he's probably just going to die, especially if he can't get rushed to the emergency room when he has a heart attack or stroke because of it.
 
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